Acro FW's I got 'em, you treat 'em.

Yeah, i've seen those pics too Sean. I did check the corals with a magnifying glass and saw nothing like that. It was after blasting them good with the turkey baster, so maybe they were blown off if they were there? I don't know. Just going to keep checking them and see how it goes.
 
I killed a bunch last night with FW exit. I know they were acro fw's since I've been dealing with them for almost a year. Its possible that at a particular stage of a fw they are vulnerable to this.
 
AlgaeMan said:
I killed a bunch last night with FW exit. I know they were acro fw's since I've been dealing with them for almost a year.
A.M.,
Expand on this some more please.
What was the situation, dosage, time etc.?
Thanks,
Sean
 
This treatment recc. will take some time....but hey, what else do you have to do with your day. :)

Dip the coral in hyposaline water, like 1.010 (or less), and have 10 drops of lugols added per gallon of water. Leave them in the water for 3-5 minutes, shake, and then scrape off any eggs you see. Put them back in your QT, and repeat every few days, and see if the eggs keep reappearing. The eggs you can't get, try to cover them with super glue.

The other thing you can do is just snip off one of the tips that looks heatly, put it back in your tank on some rubble rock, and see what happens.
 
There seems to be two kinds of Acro flatworms out there. The species that I dealt w/ never had any egg masses and did little damage except for irritating the coral in higher numbers. The species that leaves the egg bundles tends to be much more destructive. From what I've seen they look similar to each other.

If you can get some Levamisole hydrochloride, it works really well as a dip. 40ppm for 5 hours (can be shorter as they tend to fall off quickly). I've used it many times and have always had success.

Mitch
 
MiddletonMark said:
If you dosed enough, I dunno ... but you're probably right about Acro-FW [just wanted to confirm - not challenge you].

Oh - I know...

Perhaps we've hit on the secret ingredient in FWE - Interseptor ;)

Ya never know..... :)
 
Well,
After 2 hours I must say I had no success.
I scraped off all the eggs I could see and placed it back into the main tank after rinsing it off with tank water.

But, I am not ready to admit defeat with this medication just yet.
I grabbed another of the corals that is infected, added fifteen drops of the medication and 10 drops of FWE into the 2 gallons.

I am going to try this for 2-4 hours.

Sean
 
Mantis said:
Somebody who has these flatworms needs to try to talk their vet. into giving them the powdered form of Levamisole hydrochloride.
Mantis, have you ever used this medication?
If so, did you treat your tank, dips, how much, how long?
Thanks,
Sean
mjcarl said:
If you can get some Levamisole hydrochloride, it works really well as a dip. 40ppm for 5 hours (can be shorter as they tend to fall off quickly). I've used it many times and have always had success.
mjcarl,
Will this work with the fw's that lay eggs?
Also, how do you measure out 40 ppm?
Thanks,
Sean
 
Since they are inverts...wouldn't copper possibly kill them?

I may also try this product.
It is anti-fluke as well but seems to use different chemicals.
It is found at Drs. Foster and Smith.


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I have used the fluke tabs with succes. I followed the directions for the dosage, and dipped the coral for 1.5 hours. then i used a turkey baster on the coral. i repeated every week for 3 weeks and I think i beat them.
 
SeanT said:
Since they are inverts...wouldn't copper possibly kill them?

I may also try this product.
It is anti-fluke as well but seems to use different chemicals.
It is found at Drs. Foster and Smith.


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This product was brought to my attention.
I may try it as well.

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Those two products are the same product. Just different packaging different quantities. I just wanted to confirm this so everyone is clear in case this is the medication that ends up working. I have a box of these just in case. I have also heard that this is the product to go with, but no test results to confirm. Hope it works!

Jay
 
Sean,
I dosed the recommended amount of FWE in my 215g and 300g. I was amazed to see so many clear fw die of within 10 minutes. The wrasses and anthias were having a feast. The time was about 7:00 pm east. When I get some more FWE I will hit them again with a stronger dosage.
 
***Update on the 2nd test***

After 2-1/2 hours in a mixture of 15 drops of the medication and 10 drops of FWE here are the results.

I removed the coral from the QT tank and took it to the table to remove any egg bunches that there were and to inspect for flatworms.

I could not find any visible flatworms at all (which is not saying much since they are darned hard to see in the first place).
However, and this may be a BIG however, the coral had a lot of mucousy areas.
It didn't look like normal coral slime, and I know me some coral slime. ;)

Is it possible that this medication could have made the flatworms partially disintegrate or breakup into snot like worms?

I slowly drained the QT tank and other than a bunch of mucous here and there I did not see any flatworm corpses.
Bear in mind though, that the only "flatworm corpse" I have to reference are those that died in fresh water dips were I sacrificed a frag to see if it worked.
Those flatworms ballooned up into conical shapes and became milky white(ish).

Another thing worth noting.
After taking the coral out of the QT tank at such a high dosage seemed to do no harm to the coral at all.
It had moderate polyp extension seconds before removal and still had its color.
If it dies tonight or over the next month or so I will definitely let everyone know.
I will also report if I see any additional flatworm damage on this coral.

Sean
 
ReeferMac said:
Same stuff I used Sean. Dunno if it worked. I've been losing a few over the last couple of days.
Hey Kevin,
What have you been 'losing'?
Flatworms or corals?
What ratio of medication did you use? How long?
Sean
 
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