Anyone ever get sick diver's den fish?

ralphie16

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From what I understand Diver's Den section of La has a very good care and treatment program setup. I personally have always QT'ed all my fish I purchased from LA but have never had a disease on any of their fish so far. So has anyone on here who purchased fish from Diver's Den ever gotten a fish that was sick/diseased/ or otherwise unhealthy?
 
Six large or expensive fish and counting. Not one illness or death and only one fish (Regal Angel) that did not eat within 48 hours.
 
Both my Regal Angel and my new Achilles (arrived today, the 1st one was very badly shaken up from the trip and died within 24hrs) ate immediately and show no signs of disease.
If I'm going to buy a difficult, expensive fish I want him to be able to go straight into the tank without a QT to give him the best chance. For that reason, I will only get the from the Diver's Den.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10938096#post10938096 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by nosferatu51
....If I'm going to buy a difficult, expensive fish I want him to be able to go straight into the tank without a QT to give him the best chance. For that reason, I will only get the from the Diver's Den.

but even the experts over at LA tell you to QT them....you don't think they want what's best for the fish especially since they are guaranteeing them 2 weeks?

on a side note, how are your regals doing guys? how long have you had them?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10939621#post10939621 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by honda2sk
but even the experts over at LA tell you to QT them....
As long as a fish is eating when they arrive (this is easy to test in an acclimation bucket by adding a few small bits of food) and appears externally healthy, then I believe that a QT is, more often than not, for the safety of the other fish in the tank.
I understand that the concept of a QT is valid for most fish, but there are some that are, in my eyes, better suited by being in the display ASAP should they not demonstrate problems on arrival. The downsides of a QT (size, less water stability, lack of an established reef environment, etc) are more detrimental in these few cases (mandarin, regal angel, achilles tang are my personal experiences that I believe warranted this deviance).
I agree that a QT is a good general rule, I'm just a firm believer that there are a few fish who are more sensitive to their environment as a whole for various reasons and therefore represent exceptions. Usually these are considered risky fish anyway and thus are exceptions to most rules as is.
In order to minimize the potential for pathogen introduction with this practice, I would only ever order fish that I plan on bypassing a QT with from the Diver's Den.
I hope that explains it a bit better despite my tiredness!

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10939621#post10939621 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by honda2sk
on a side note, how are your regals doing guys? how long have you had them? [/B]
He's doing fantastic. He literally eats everything I throw at him (with the exception of cyclopeeze which I believe is probably just too small for him). Here's a picture of my beautiful boy (as evidenced by his large gill spines):
111803angel1-med.jpg
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10939915#post10939915 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by honda2sk
looks great.

p.s. don't throw too much flake at him ;-)
Don't worry, the joy I get from seeing him tear into a clam or the gusto with which they go for the Formula 2 will prevent that from happening. Even still, the flake is at least Ocean One stuff... so it could be worse ;)
 
I have only had my regal since friday. He appears to be in fantastic shape and is picking at the rock but not yet eating with everyone else. He seems very interested, but just hasn't pigged out.
 
Want to watch him pig out? :)
Toss a thawed clam in. Make sure it's not previously cooked.... I , like you, live on the coast so fresh clams are easy for me to obtain too. That was the 1st time I saw my angel really go crazy and it completely changed his eating habits.
Stand there and watch him the entire time he eats his 1st 2 or 3 clams. He will sort of connect you with treats better. After that, I will promise you that he will eat almost anything you throw in and beg you for it (as long as he was eating at least ok before the clams).
 

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