I have not dipped any of my Aussie Acans but I have noticed a couple of my Aussie Acans having worms inside of them too. How do I get rid of these worms? Is dipping them the best or do I have to frag them? Randy O I did notice something dead on the bottom of my acan too. I will take a pic and post it.
Aussie Acan Lord is Dieing - HELP
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RandyO
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I haven't dipped any of my colonies. I did however dip the injured frags in Tropic Marine's pro coral cure. I usually use this for injured corals. I don't dip my healthy cut frags.
I wouldn't dip a healthy colony with a lot of worms. The problem some people are having could be due to die off in the middle of the colony. If the worms are alive, then just leave them be. It's the dead ones that foul the coral. So if you take a healthy colony and dip it to kill off worms in the center of your colony, all that will do is put the colony in jeopardy.
Hey Zeppelin,
I've been keeping this colony in 83 degree's water for about 6 weeks now, and it's looking better every day.
I haven't seen any ill effects of high temps. At least not yet.
Though we all know not all corals are created equal, and while some can make the adjustment well, others may not.
I wouldn't dip a healthy colony with a lot of worms. The problem some people are having could be due to die off in the middle of the colony. If the worms are alive, then just leave them be. It's the dead ones that foul the coral. So if you take a healthy colony and dip it to kill off worms in the center of your colony, all that will do is put the colony in jeopardy.
Hey Zeppelin,
I've been keeping this colony in 83 degree's water for about 6 weeks now, and it's looking better every day.
I haven't seen any ill effects of high temps. At least not yet.
Though we all know not all corals are created equal, and while some can make the adjustment well, others may not.
I bought one of Clint's Aussie Acans form that first shipment. When I got it home I found that about 3 polyps along one edge were dieing off. I had hoped they would heal up but after a couple of weeks it had spread a bit. I decided to frag off that side in hope of not having it spread. The fresh, healthy polyps along the cut edge looked good for the first week of healing, now three weeks into it a few are looking bad again, the rest look healthy but I fear it will slowly work its way through the 25 or so healthy polyps. Maybe a TMPCC dip is in order once again.
greystreet41
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fwiw, I have noticed certain color morphs (more of the predominantly whiteish tissue ones) are more fickle than others---the ones that have pinkish/red skeleton when receding occurs. For the most part I think they have been very hardy. More often than not in a few of the problem colonies I have had not do well I could trace death deep within the rock--whether it be a dead bivalve or something else that was fouling up (that good ole' sulfur smell). I do agree with an above statement that they may desire cooler temps, pristine water, and low-med lighting...just my opinion.
Interesting thread. When I did cut my colony along that bad edge I did not notice anything but white regular looking skeleton, though it does not mean there may not be anything deeper in the middle of the colony. Mine is one of those whitish colonies. I am keeping it on the bottom with a bit of shading from a higher up coral. It is still getting good diffused light. It looks really healthy for the most part, just these few edge polyps beginning to recede.
greystreet41
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good to hear slojmn...I'd say the less live rock the colony is attached to the better off one would be.
zeppelin
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Randy
I know what you mean. Different morphs will react differently. Thats just info I was passing on directly from one of the collectors down under.
I know for sure one of mine doesn't like direct 250 watt 14K metal halide about 8" above it. Had to raise the light, and put the morph over to one side of the tank and its looking allot better. Temp wise, its hard for me to keep it from creeping a bit over 80 by days end here in Ohio right now. We're having some abnormally hot weather right now. I am switching from 400s to 250 over most of my tanks since I dont keep much sps anyways.
Keep the info coming everyone. Collaboration is the best way to get things figured out.
I know what you mean. Different morphs will react differently. Thats just info I was passing on directly from one of the collectors down under.
I know for sure one of mine doesn't like direct 250 watt 14K metal halide about 8" above it. Had to raise the light, and put the morph over to one side of the tank and its looking allot better. Temp wise, its hard for me to keep it from creeping a bit over 80 by days end here in Ohio right now. We're having some abnormally hot weather right now. I am switching from 400s to 250 over most of my tanks since I dont keep much sps anyways.
Keep the info coming everyone. Collaboration is the best way to get things figured out.
Hypertek99
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Any Dremel will work. I would but some of those diamond bit cut off wheels they will slice through them like butter. Oh and pick up one of those frag kits on ebay that have the tissue sissors and tzeezers and the pliers that cuts rocks. You just cut where you want to cut with the dremel doesn't have to go all the way through if it's too deep then take the bone cutter and snap off what you cut. You can use the tissue cutter if you want to cut the tissue.
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I fragged my Aussie Acan last night and it did have that black stuff in the middle...ewww...I call it black death. Like Randy O was saying something must of died in it and it was killing the colony. Hypertek99 that diamond cutter slices through rock like butter, just like you mentioned. Thanks for everyones help with this. I hope I saved my colony. One last thing.....I have a few worms in another Aussie Acan colony just like Randy O pictured.... It is making me nervious to have them there...Should I frag this colony right where the worms are at so I can get rid of them?
Hypertek99
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If the worms aren't affecting the colony i wouldn't bother with it. Just keep a close eye on it. If you start to sense something wrong frag it. Better then lose the whole thing.
Hypertek99
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They are tough. I had a whole colony melt away and no it's making a comeback from merely nothing. All i see is skeleton with a few hanging tissue and it's starting to grow back. Looks like baby acans.
RandyO
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That is how I cut them. I use a wet Tile saw. An amazing tool that I highly recommend. I picked up a plastic one from Harbor Freight tools, on sale for 40.00.
I like to cut through the bottom rock. I let the blade get close enough the polyps, but I don't let it cut into them. The blade makes a nice thin channel in the colony. I take a flat head screwdriver, stick it in and use it as a lever, with a small/slow snapping motion. The colony will snap in half, but still be attached by the flesh. I then use a razor blade to slice through the flesh.
As for lighting, I usually start them off under very low light, and slowly raise it up after a week.
smp
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I've been watching the LFS here and how they "frag" the colonies .. they do it like I do it, with a screwdriver and a hammer. Smash - done.
No harm no foul, I think people get too technical and spend too much money on "fragging kits" and surgical tools when it's not necessary. i think the only high tech tool worth while is the diamond disk for a dremel, other than that maybe a razor blade. Just make sure whatever you use is clean and sterile.
I know a local here who had some problems with his acans, I'll see if he has anything to add to this thread. Gotta keep those aussie acans healthy and happy
No harm no foul, I think people get too technical and spend too much money on "fragging kits" and surgical tools when it's not necessary. i think the only high tech tool worth while is the diamond disk for a dremel, other than that maybe a razor blade. Just make sure whatever you use is clean and sterile.
I know a local here who had some problems with his acans, I'll see if he has anything to add to this thread. Gotta keep those aussie acans healthy and happy
Hypertek99
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Hypertek99
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Yeah i just start a cut with the diamond cutoff wheels then just put a flathead where i cut and wham!! with a hammer and it's done. If the piece is small enough i just cut it all the way through with the diamond bit.
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