Australian Acan's

[Chads29]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10271238#post10271238 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by zeppelin
If you look at the rare corals page of that site, you can see their pricing. There are some small frags, and 5-8 polyps looks to be considered a colony on their site, and yes, they are running from $75 to $200, some at $100. I just dont consider 5-8 polyps a colony.

I also have to agree that $150 a polyp was kinda steep, even a month ago. But that was supply and demand. If there were customers that were paying that much, they cant blame anyone but themselves if they feel they were taken advantage of. The aussie acans were around a month ago at numerous vendors for less than that.

I am just glad that they are becoming available at all, at least for now. Thanks to the Australian Gov't. for making it possible for us to enjoy many types and morphs of corals not previously available to the reefing community. You have some beautiful sealife there in the 'down under'.

He mentioned that he has not recieved the shipment from the "new" supplier where the prices are reduces yet. I am guessing that when he does it could really be a whole new pricing sceme if they are as colorful as the ones from his origional supplier.

 

[tangwang]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10272345#post10272345 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by neyugn0w01
The $150 price is if you are being picky or buying a few small colonies. Stores like RR that buy hundreds of colonies pay nowhere that amount. I have seen two different price list for wholesalers with the Aussie Lords and can tell you that the price is much lower then you would expect.

Thats like comparing wal-mart to a mom and pop shop

 

[sufunk]

Good, i'm glad we cleared that up and now everyone finally admits that Clint and others were completely SCREWING everyone of their customers last month with what they were charging.

They never paid remotely close to $150-250 a head and were completely gouging people taking advantage of a "hot item". Luckily for them, some people are so desperate to have the latest toy that they not only paid those prices but raved about the people gouging them. I can only laugh at what the people who were happy to pay $250 a head last month are thinking now.

I dont care about supply and demand. When you are charging you customers 20x or more what you paid for something, you are trash and shouldn't be in business.

 

[Chads29]

sufunk,

please respect others who sell the corals and who buy them, personal attacks do no one any good. This thread is simply getting others opinions on what they think will happen when the new acan's start coming into the country; not the ones that where shipped in the last batch, those where not as cheap.

Yes some of it was marketing the initial batch of Aussie Acans but the personal attacks are not needed. We the consumer do not set the price on corals we simply decide if we will pay what a certain vendor is asking for them.

Thanks,
Chad

 

[250G]

Someone should take away your posting privaleges for posting nonsense like this, specially when you are directing it at one specific person like you did below.

If a seller posts an accurate picture of an item for sale, accompanied with a price, and a buyer agrees to buy the item how did the buyer get ripped off??? Now if the picture was not accurate (false advertising) then I agree you and you make a legitamit point.

For everyone else, having personally seen essentially every Australian acan that has come through Toronto in the last 3-4 months I am confident these less expensive acans will be much smaller, and not of the same quality (colour) as the others. There are also many Aussie suppliers, and several of our locals stores have gotten in shipments, most are not from the same source. There are differenet grades of corals, and different sizes. These acans will never be cheap compared to non-aussie acans...

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10274974#post10274974 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sufunk
Good, i'm glad we cleared that up and now everyone finally admits that Clint and others were completely SCREWING everyone of their customers last month with what they were charging.

They never paid remotely close to $150-250 a head and were completely gouging people taking advantage of a "hot item". Luckily for them, some people are so desperate to have the latest toy that they not only paid those prices but raved about the people gouging them. I can only laugh at what the people who were happy to pay $250 a head last month are thinking now.

I dont care about supply and demand. When you are charging you customers 20x or more what you paid for something, you are trash and shouldn't be in business.

 

[sufunk]

It's sad to see our hobby turning into everyone trying to see how much $ they can make off of their tank rather than how much enjoyment they can get from its beauty

 

[gflat65]

Welcome to capitalism. I know it is a new thought for some (read as extreme sarcasm). There are a number of things wrong with the world. Knowing you know it all and calling people out to make yourself feel better only adds to that which is wrong with the world (to me, one of the largest problems with society is the I'm right, you're wrong, now let me tell you why attitude...). It's one thing to make a statement. It's a completely different thing to ride the dead horse. I guess some need to try to make others feel bad about themselves to make themselves feel good and all warm and fuzzy inside... It's like gambling. Those who are most against it will never gamble anyway. Why worry about what others are doing. Do the higher acan prices effect your life? Are you going to make statements about the cost of certain zoas, sps, and other LPS (many of which have been on the market for years at high prices)? Do you see this as a new problem? If so, you're not paying much attention to that which you are complaining... It is sad that so many have decided it is easy to make a quick buck in this hobby, but what can we do about it? I've seen a number of people come into the hobby ni the last two or three years, start a business within the first three or six months, then go out of business shortly therafter. While it is bad for the hobby, they do weed themselves out. BTW, the first person you specifically attacked in this thread (and have attacked before since it seems to make you feel all warm and fuzzy) was selling Aussie Acans for ~$25 a polyp or less on average. Not sure how greystreet's name gets dragged out into commerical circles on the gripe that people are selling for $150 a polyp (once again, if you knew what you were complaining about before you start complaining, maybe things would look differently on you). Inconsistency in your argument doesn't bode well for your purpose in the argument. Good luck with that internal peace you've been searching for. Looking inward will usually find it faster than lashing out just because you can...

 

[sufunk]

Yeah, you're right. There is nothing we can do about something that we all know is wrong so lets all stick our head in the sand and act like it isnt happening.

I'm not in this for money. I dont buy corals because i can flip them for a profit. I buy them because they make my tank nice and will for years to come.

It seemed almost everyone was in it for that same reason but those numbers seem to be dwindling.

And yes, sorry, i think it is shady for someone to say "no aussie acans prices aren't falling at all and by the way check out my trying to sell an aussie acan thread while your at it"

 

[Tyler.L]

no wonder you wanna argue and go on and on you're a lawyer....just stop it..who cares its over dude...we got your point end of story, now you're gonna write another 19 posts about how people are getting ripped off. who cares are you buying them? if so you're just as bad as everyone else. i am proud of you that you don't do this for the money everyone give him a round of applause..

i am done

sorry everyone

 

[Hypertek99]

For a lawyer you sure complain a lot about the prices.

 

[RevHtree]

WOW! Somebody has some Aussie Acan envy!

 

[Hypertek99]

Seriously!

 

[Tyler.L]

i am so glad other people are backing me up cause i was in no mood for a flame war with this dude..

thanks guys much love for real

 

[sufunk]

Yep, the frag tank squad has your back


Enjoy your investments guys, hope you get good returns:fish1:

 

[Hypertek99]

That's funny as i don't have a frag tank.

 

[Tyler.L]

neither do i

are you pouting now sufunk?


i have one acan colony not aussie they will come but i don't like full colonies anyways like to wiggity for my liking. my point is why do you care what other people do? i'd think dealing with people all day being a liar and all i mean lawyer, you just have to defend people but do you really care what they do? you're just getting paid just like the people who are selling each head for 150 plus....who cares end of this thread someone should just lock it cause its getting outta hand...

 

[Chads29]

Hey Guys,

Please Post if you have comments on the discussion not on flaming someone else... your point has been made.

Thanks

 

[Hypertek99]

Lock it up, Lock it up, Lock it up, LOL!!!!

 

[Duce]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10270742#post10270742 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Chads29
did you read the posts on the ap site? the first shipment from RR had the prices in the $250-450 range, this next shipment is $100.

They are from different suppliers...
The first shipment I've seen at RR is $250-$450 range.
The prices on their subsequent shipment are higher than $400. mind you the color morphs and size of the colony are much crazier and bigger as well. Most of them are Ultra Grade (I think these are ones where the collectors in Aussie classifiy them when there are more than 4 colors in a polyp)
The $100 ones are from a different suppliers than previous... I am not sure what Grade they are at this point....mind you I already put my pre order in

 

[Chads29]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10282853#post10282853 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Duce
They are from different suppliers...
The first shipment I've seen at RR is $250-$450 range.
The prices on their subsequent shipment are higher than $400. mind you the color morphs and size of the colony are much crazier and bigger as well. Most of them are Ultra Grade (I think these are ones where the collectors in Aussie classifiy them when there are more than 4 colors in a polyp)
The $100 ones are from a different suppliers than previous... I am not sure what Grade they are at this point....mind you I already put my pre order in

Please post some pictures once you recieve them. I would love to see some before they all get sold. also send me a pm once you get them please.

Thanks,
Chad