Candy cane coral
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JetCat USA
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a few hours unless it was a particularly stressful shipping.
JetCat USA
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sounds like your tank maybe. usually unless it was an overnight shipment they'll open up within a few min. i drove 3 hrs last Friday to pick up the contents of a tank, all corals were open within about 15 min of being put in my tank.
allot of people disagree but i never acclimate a coral to anything but temp. pull it from the bag, let it drip for about 30 sec and plop it directly into the tank, I've been doing it that way for better then 20 yrs and I've never lost a coral and 90% are open within an hour, the exception are Zoas/GSP and other matting polyps, they usually take a few hours to start opening.
allot of people disagree but i never acclimate a coral to anything but temp. pull it from the bag, let it drip for about 30 sec and plop it directly into the tank, I've been doing it that way for better then 20 yrs and I've never lost a coral and 90% are open within an hour, the exception are Zoas/GSP and other matting polyps, they usually take a few hours to start opening.
Definitely need more info on your tank.
Lighting, flow, filtration, age of tank, water parameters (at least ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and ph, other livestock?
Jetcat, I always feel safer acclimating things well (especially rare/expensive stuff), but the only good lfs here just floats bags and pokes holes in them, really never loses anything.
Lighting, flow, filtration, age of tank, water parameters (at least ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and ph, other livestock?
Jetcat, I always feel safer acclimating things well (especially rare/expensive stuff), but the only good lfs here just floats bags and pokes holes in them, really never loses anything.
I've seen candycanes close up for a lot longer than an hour after nothing more than a short drive. If everything else in your tank is doing well, and the candycane isn't in direct flow (ie: in front of a powerhead) then I wouldn't worry yet. It could easily take a week+. Usually they open up right away, but not always.
JetCat USA
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corals are wonderfully designed little creatures, when the polyps retract and close they seal off and hold in water, Every time they re-open they self acclimate.
at low tide on the reef there are miles of corals exposed to the air as the tide drops the water level, as soon as the tide starts to come back in they self acclimate to the water which is now much lower in salinity then themselves because they used part of their trapped water for secretions of UV repellent, an SPS SPF if you will
anemones are the same way, at low tide I've seen Hadoni's exposed to air for hours and other types in tide pools where the temp and salinity during the tide changes can have drastic variances.I'm pretty sure the candy cane is dead. It had no fleshy parts left, looked like a skeleton and the color was all gone
. I'm having horrible luck with corals. I can't even seem to keep mushrooms alive, yet my fish are doing fantastic! Here's the info on the tank that I have:
30 gal
30" PC coralife aqualight 2 X 65 W bulbs (one 10000k and one actininic)
1 Aquaclear 110 with live rock
1 aquaclear 70 just for flow
Temp 77
PH 8.2
Salinity 1.025
Ammonia 0
Nitrates 5mg/l
I have about 30lbs or so of live rock (plus what is in the filter) Aragonite sand for the bottom, 2 hermit crabs, 6 blue legged hermit crabs, 1 snail, 2 false percs, 1 yellow tail blue damsel, 1 Royal Gramma
Tank has been up for about 2 months.
. I'm having horrible luck with corals. I can't even seem to keep mushrooms alive, yet my fish are doing fantastic! Here's the info on the tank that I have:30 gal
30" PC coralife aqualight 2 X 65 W bulbs (one 10000k and one actininic)
1 Aquaclear 110 with live rock
1 aquaclear 70 just for flow
Temp 77
PH 8.2
Salinity 1.025
Ammonia 0
Nitrates 5mg/l
I have about 30lbs or so of live rock (plus what is in the filter) Aragonite sand for the bottom, 2 hermit crabs, 6 blue legged hermit crabs, 1 snail, 2 false percs, 1 yellow tail blue damsel, 1 Royal Gramma
Tank has been up for about 2 months.
JetCat USA
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you don't have enough light, BUT the coral hasn't been in your system long enough to die from that. I'd recommend you test your tank for Coper. sounds like a very likely suspect with your inability to keep corals, hermits can be a bit more tolerant then other inverts and you didn't mention any snails in the system.
JetCat USA
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new rock, new sand, nothing fun.
JetCat USA
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you don't have to get a new tank, it doesn't leech into the seals or glass
JetCat USA
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copper is used as a medication for fish and if a tank was medicated with the rock in the tank, the rock absorbers the copper. it can also be introduced by various other instances, brass fittings on plumbing, a penny getting put in the tank, etc.......
unless in a high concentration it's pretty much harmless to Most fish.
to give you an idea of how sensitive inverts are to copper, back in the days when a tank got ick people would toss a penny into the tank for a few days to treat the fish. i seen someone toss one into a 55g system and within a few min all the feather dusters threw their crowns off, he pulled the penny out immediately there after but they feather dusters died a few days later.
unless in a high concentration it's pretty much harmless to Most fish.
to give you an idea of how sensitive inverts are to copper, back in the days when a tank got ick people would toss a penny into the tank for a few days to treat the fish. i seen someone toss one into a 55g system and within a few min all the feather dusters threw their crowns off, he pulled the penny out immediately there after but they feather dusters died a few days later.
Did a re-test of my water with a better kit (red sea marine kit) this is what I got:
Ph 8.6 - is this too high and if so, how do I get it down?
Alk the reading was in the high range, doesn't give any numbers, is this ok or a problem?
Nitrate 0
Nitrite 0
Ammonia 0
SG 1.026
temp 77
Ph 8.6 - is this too high and if so, how do I get it down?
Alk the reading was in the high range, doesn't give any numbers, is this ok or a problem?
Nitrate 0
Nitrite 0
Ammonia 0
SG 1.026
temp 77
JetCat USA
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pH 8.6 is still in the safe zone but unless you're adding Kalk, I'd suspect a bad reading from the test kit.
Alk you need to know what it is, not a range, high can be 16 dKH, it can also be 200 dKH.
I'm always leery of a test kit that gives a 0 on NO3 too, it's very difficult to keep a system at zero and a struggle for most people who haven't allot of experience with keeping low nutrient tanks to keep levels below 5ppm.
temp and salinity are fine.
Alk you need to know what it is, not a range, high can be 16 dKH, it can also be 200 dKH.
I'm always leery of a test kit that gives a 0 on NO3 too, it's very difficult to keep a system at zero and a struggle for most people who haven't allot of experience with keeping low nutrient tanks to keep levels below 5ppm.
temp and salinity are fine.
JetCat USA
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=1828375#post1828375 target=_blank>Read This</a> on tank maturity, it may help explain some of the problems you're having, especially with your tank only 2 months in the making.
