cb and rare lps

[xdusty6920]

ok i have a tank full of nothing but rare lps. i collect nothing but, micros, lords, blastos, challice, etc so there arent very many "expendable" corals in my tank. there are no fish but id like to get a copperband butterfly to manage some aiptasia that have takin root in my tank. my question is, is there any chance at all that a cb would nip or eat any lps at all? are there any existing storys of cb's being a problem at all? i cant take risks with this tank at all. and the peppermint shrimp and Joe's juice (no clue why people think this stuff is worth a nickle) havent worked at all. btw i know cb's will eat a feathduster.......but is that it?

 

[ADA33]

I have a cb and in 2 days it eliminated all my aiptasia and also all my featherdusters and all the small little white anemonies that are common on live rock. Now it is a great part of my reef tank and has been a class one citizen with all the coral. Does eat alot of pods. Wont eat flake but will eat frozen food.


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Denny

 

[JenDub]

I was wondering the same thing =) Dusty-you test it and let me know how it goes hehehe

 

[mschriskim]

I had CB and once it is about to kill most of them (Gotten them from liverock which was free from local reefer) than it went after Acan Lord... this was about 10 months back.

CB killed about 10 polyps of my pride green Acan lord and few polyps of micromussa

I would never put CB in my LPS tank again but SPS tank so during system upgrade I cured clean rocks for 1 1/2 months and put them in new LPS tank and old 100gallon tank I turn it it to SPS and Zoa tank : )

CB has not started to eating aiptasia yet but I am sure it will go after in few weeks than I will get clean system again.

Some people says CB or Tangs they have luck but I think it is just matter of time.... even you do not have trouble with them for LPS in short time or even little long time it will happen... (I have heard from people their CB or Tangs or even Angle were ok with Lord and LPS but after certain moment (could be few months or few years) but they will turn...

It might be just me strongly against with CB or Tangs with LPS but I have had bad experience so I will not add them in expecially I know dusty you have good amount of rare collections.

 

[Jacob D]

Nothing in life is certain

No problems with my CBB and any of my corals or clams.

 

[mschriskim]

Oh, I am not fish hater...

I want to add few Angels and Tangs and all even they are not for treat certain things but I love to keep some but....

I might add them slowly to my SPS and Zoa tank but not to LPS tank...

 

[mschriskim]

Jacob, how long you had your CB in your tank for? I know you have some brain type LPSs right?

Hmmmm, I may need to borrow your CB for sometime as you are local : )

 

[xdusty6920]

well jen i think 10 or so of my micro morphs are jendub originals straight for your colonys........those are insured right lol?!?
man mschriskim- i told myself if anyone had a single bad thing to say about them i wouldnt get one. but the aips are spreading like crazy and i cant find anything to stop them...so i dont know what to do. btw i have your "prized green lords" that copperbands seem to love lol.
i live real close to sedar "phishybusiness" so i might see if he has one that he's been housing with his corals he could sell me.

 

[JenDub]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7174616#post7174616 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by xdusty6920
well jen i think 10 or so of my micro morphs are jendub originals straight for your colonys........those are insured right lol?!?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[SPStoner]

I had one for 8 months in my SPS tank. He polished off all of the aptasia and mojanos in about a month, and was a model citizen, eating primarily flake and mysis. In the 8th month, I had occasion to move an pink eye Acan Echinata colony out of my LPS tank (micro frag fell on it and , of course, was immediately dissolved )
Anyway, after only a few days, the CB discovered the LPS goodnes, and proceded to decimate the colony. I was travelling at the time and came home to find the little bugger finishing off his feast.

Needless to say, I wouldn't try it if I were you.

Any chance you can set up a 10 or 20 gallon tank or tub, and remove your rocks a few at a time to let the CB clean them in the seperate tank?

Tony

 

[porky]

Any chance you can set up a 10 or 20 gallon tank or tub, and remove your rocks a few at a time to let the CB clean them in the seperate tank?

That's a great idea :thumbsup:

 

[SPStoner]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7175335#post7175335 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by porky
That's a great idea :thumbsup:

Thanks! We used to do that about 15 years ago at an LFS I managed, to get rid of microalgae from rock in some display tanks. We had a 50 gal Rubbermaid tub in the back room loaded with urchins. Drop in a few pieces of LR and they were clean in a few days.


HTH

 

[mjdlonghorn]

I know some nudibranchs eat only apista. I think they had some on live aquaria.

 

[tacocat]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7173800#post7173800 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mothra
Nothing in life is certain

No problems with my CBB and any of my corals or clams.

Same here. Mine has picked a piece of food out of an acan's mouth before, but it leaves my LPS alone for the most part. It will take a potshot at the clams and LPS once in a great while, but nothing major.

 

[ReefMonger]

I put one in my tank and he cleaned up the aipstasia. But a customer of mine put one in his tank and it picked at a few of his chalices. Hit or miss with fish. I still like the Kalk paste the most. Almost always works. Joes juice never worked for me either

Dusty how did those echinos heal up?

 

[Jacob D]

Chris, I've only had my copperband for a couple of months now. I did have another one before this for about a year, that had an unfortunate accident kill it, and it never messed w/ anything either. My dwarf golden angel is another story, I have had her a couple of years and she has killed off a few nice pieces, but I love the fish.

I have all the usual lps stuff, acan, micro, echinos, blastos, cyphs, etc...

 

[tacocat]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7176385#post7176385 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mothra
I have all the usual lps stuff, acan, micro, echinos, blastos, cyphs, etc...

Yeah, but they're all photoshopped under heavy actinic

I think CBBs are fine if they have plenty to eat. They LOVE featherdusters. If you have direclty feed your LPS, I wouldn't recommend a CBB.

 

[xdusty6920]

oh yeah cant forget the cyphs, have those too mothra. does the kalk paste method work that well? with joes juice i got this result. fed a generous amount with the supplied applicator. they gobbled it up, melted to a small blob and then just returned in a few days back from the blob. ive done this at least a dozen times with the same result everytime.
and yes i do feed heavily. my mush mix 3 times a week.
ive thought about taking out rocks and putting them in a confined tank with the cb as suggested but that sounds extrememly difficult for me. i have over 100lbs of live rock strategically set to support the entire rock structure. add to that i have tons of colonys and frags attached to every inch of every available rock. i know i have a different coral for every gallon in my system if that gives you an idea lol

 

[Jacob D]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7176910#post7176910 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tacocat
Yeah, but they're all photoshopped under heavy actinic

LOL.. yes yes you caught me.

I do agree with Tacocat about the feather dusters. I have a ton of the small ones with long brown tubes in my overflow, sometimes I'll get a few out of there and drop them in the tank like a treat.

I personally have found that a lot of things tend to bother my corals when I feed them, so I don't feed them anymore, but they still manage to catch some food here and there (especially my galaxia which is getting to be very large and frightening).

 

[mschriskim]

I would agree with SPStoner... I would not try CB as I had bad luck... yes CB was not good for few months (First 1-2 weeks did not touched aiptasia but featherdusters than it was after aiptasia so I was happy for about over about 2-3months) than it went after Acans and micros....

I know dusty what you mean... I had same problem as I have 100gallon tank with 120lbs of liverocks and aiptasia here there in deep area as well so Joe's juice or kalk paste just cannot kill them all and they come back...

I have tried Berghia but they were good for one section and disapeared... I guess some invert ate them even I saw their eggs it was not successful....

I was thinking last option before I turn my tank to SPS and Zoa tank with CB which is get about 16 Berghia and keep 8 for breeding and 8 in tank that way if I loss 8 in tank I could put them again with breedings... but well breeding Berghia probably isn't easy and it is one darn expensive options as I was planning on getting 16....

I have studied little about how to breed Berghia for sometime and I set my mind about just turning this tank to SPS & Zoa tank with CB and setup a new LPS tank.

Dusty, I am still thinking breeding Berghia only last option for someone like your case as other option is so much hassle moving rocks to treat... Also what about few that you might miss which are actually on your frag rocks and all...
For CB or Perpermint? Much more risky as your prize rare frags are at risk...