Fish die within 24 hours!!!

dukeap said:
can you do me a favor and pull out your MP40 and open the wet side and look at the magnet. I have read of a few magnets that for some reason start to rust and affect the water and kill everything, it may not be that since your corals are alive but at least is one thing, i can think of that I have read here in the forum that happen to someone else, and something else to cross out from our list.
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I've been having issues with one of my MP40s being louder than the other. Ecotech TS suggested taking the wet side apart and doing a thorough cleaning. The pumps are only 5 months old so the insides are still spotless. Needless to say but no rust. I cleaned both of them while I was at it.
 
mattanderin said:
Considering the expense of the fish you keep losing it may be cheaper to upgrade tanks and let it cycle during the same time frame as you quarantine would be on the other tank
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I had a custom tank built by Miracles. Upgrading is out of the question for a long long long time.
 
Ok...not to beat a dead horse...I recommend removing the pistol shrimp and putting him in a safe place...maybe with a friend or sump/fuge?...Try adding another fish and see what happens...You never know...Just saying..It only takes one pop and the fish may not die immediately :)

If this is the case I accept beer as payment, or a frag...joke.

No, really a beer is fine.
 
Swirlygig said:
Ok...not to beat a dead horse...I recommend removing the pistol shrimp and putting him in a safe place...maybe with a friend or sump/fuge?...Try adding another fish and see what happens...You never know...Just saying..It only takes one pop and the fish may not die immediately :)

If this is the case I accept beer as payment, or a frag...joke.

No, really a beer is fine.
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If I can catch them, this will definitely be attempted before fallow, I have two to the best of my knowledge. I see one often but I'm not sure if there are still two. I figure I will first introduce the next fish into my refugium and see what happens. If it lives in there for a few weeks and is healthy I'll move it to the display. If all goes to plan, this should rule out any kind of parasite or disease right?
 
I think putting a fish in the refugium would still leave it susceptible to disease/parasites but obviously not a predator in the main tank.
 
I think you'd have to choose a fish deliberately to eliminate possibilities.

Any recently collected wild fish is likely to have some stomach worms at least and could possibly be 'swimming dead' due to existing disease and/or poor collection. A wild caught fish would need to have 8-12 weeks of observation in a separate water system to assure no disease.
Each LFS has different dipping/medicating protocols; I would avoid any fish who's been dipped in copper or formulin recently. This eliminates some LFS completely. A LFS that uses no copper or formulin but does a praziquantel treatment for wild caught fish gets bonus points.
I think, you have to find a fish who's been living in a home aquarium for at least 2-3 months. The two fish (Royal Gramma and Clowns) are good choices since they are hardy.
 
discocarp said:
I think putting a fish in the refugium would still leave it susceptible to disease/parasites but obviously not a predator in the main tank.
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Agreed. Assuming he has a refugium that could be an option too, but he won't know till he tries.

If you cut the top 1/3 off a coke bottle and invert it with a piece of shrimp you can catch them over night. easy
 
mattanderin said:
what did you do differently these times around
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I dont acclimate anymore. I hand scoop from the bag straight to my refugium for a few days and then right into the DT. The last fish came from the same store that I lost most of the previous fish. SG in the bag was 1.018. My system runs at 1.026. Did not seem to affect the the fish at all. Within minutes it was free swimming with the rest of the fish. I'm not sure if it was a single issue or multiple but this process seems to be working for me.
 
nitr8 said:
I dont acclimate anymore. I hand scoop from the bag straight to my refugium for a few days and then right into the DT. The last fish came from the same store that I lost most of the previous fish. SG in the bag was 1.018. My system runs at 1.026. Did not seem to affect the the fish at all. Within minutes it was free swimming with the rest of the fish. I'm not sure if it was a single issue or multiple but this process seems to be working for me.
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but you run the risk of introducing pathogens into your system
 
nitr8 said:
The refugium is remote and disconnected from the system while they are in there. If I see any signs I would move then to the QT tank.
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gotcha, so the fuge serves as isolated qt while they are in there.

the only downside I see then is if you do get something, you'll have to leave the fuge isolated and fallow for a long while to assure you don't introduce that to the DT.
 
BoricuaMojao said:
gotcha, so the fuge serves as isolated qt while they are in there.

the only downside I see then is if you do get something, you'll have to leave the fuge isolated and fallow for a long while to assure you don't introduce that to the DT.
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True. I think I'm going to start using my QT. After all the trouble I've had its hard to change what's finally working.
 
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