good place to get sps?

The Ocean! I will submit some pics what I got during my dive trip yesterday. Actually I think PPM is pretty expensive Aquaculture seems better priced.
 
where is ppm, magrath where are some good places in the ocean that aren't too deep that I can get to while snorkeling. I have seen some at the junkyard. That has been the best place I have seen. ACO I know has a couple, but not too much to offer.
 
I just got all my goodies from snorkling Junkyard. I went out first thing in the morning (less traffic). I am pasting an old thread that has the directions to all the shops here on Oki.

My buddy has a boat and I will be heading out here in the next couple weeks diving again so I can pick up a bunch of frags for you, let me know. I will post some pics of what I got last weekend.

PPM: head out Kadena gate2, go all the way to 329. at 329 hang a left and go up the hill about 500m or so, and its on your left, just past the little toyota dealer there. If you get to the light at the top of the hill, you've gone to far. They are only open from noon until 8, Friday, Saturday and Sunday right now.

Aqua Culture Okinawa: Head south on 58. 58 branches off to the right, right there before pit stop used car rip off place. Head that way twords the Okinawan Convention Center. Go past that...go up over the bridge. after the little bridge, there is a stoplight with a family mart at the corner. Hang a right there (only way to turn), follow it around to the right and at the seawall make a left and go through the gate. ACO is on the left right at the corner.

Marine Lagoon (also refered to as "the fish lady"): Head north on 58, past Kadena gate 1, go past the flightline, and at the intersection where the new CoCo's curry houre is, make a left, and at the next intersection make a right and her shop is on the left about 350m. (on the right side of the road there is a little grocery store)

There is also a shop in Naha, but im not familiar with the road names, so I dont want to get you lost. Theres the 3 that I go to the most.

Theres a new shop on 23 about 2kms up the hill off of 58. It will be on your left side. Ive been in there a couple of times, not a place for saltwater IMO. Freshwater, there stuff appears very healthy.

Petbox. There is one in Naha and the one in Chatan/Mihama area. I think everyone knows where the one in Chatan/Mihama is. The one in Naha...best way for me to describe...if you know where sports dept is...go east to the first stoplight, hang a left and petbox will be on your right.

Makeman/moneyman/DIY store: (all the same place) Most of the Makeman's around island have saltwater livestock. They also carry hardware such as tanks and supplies. Directions, there are many around island.


Reports on the shops:
PPM is coral farm. They go to the ocean, pull coral and propogate it. Prices are a little steep but there corals are in tip top shape. They also have water (15g will cost me 1200y) but my corals love there water. Its a little steep but I dont mind paying it. The people are really friendly, but english is limited. They also culture photoplankton, my tank likes it when I bring some home. Also, they have cyclopyses (sp) which is a great thing for tanks. My fish and anenomes go nuts over the stuff. Price is 4500y for a huge brick of it that should last a real long time. They are starting to carry fish as well.

The fish lady. Her shop is your typical mama & papasan shop. Some of her coral looks like crap, sometimes you go in there and her coral is real nice. Some of her stuff in the for sale tanks isnt always for sale...its always something new when you go in there. Her english is good when you pull out money to spend.
The papasan speaks english really well, he will order things for you, should you want something, he made a real nice sump for teto for an unbeliveable price (and hes gonna make dastank, Mike, a sump whenever he decides he wants to finish his tank :lol Prices are good as well. I sometimes get water from them...15g cost me about 400y. Huge difference between that and PPM. I find PPM's water to be better quality though...
The fish ladys hours, 3:30-9. She is closed on Tuesdays. Sometimes she opens late and closes early. Like I said...typical mama & papasan shop. I've also cought her when shes open on Tuesdays.

Aqua Culture Okinawa: This is more of a research/breeding ground place for other shops. They propogate and ship to other shops in mainland. Its a real hardcore full blown coral farm that operates 6 days a week. There is a gentleman that is real friendly down there, Arikho (sp) and he will help in anyway that he can. Really a nice guy. They have or can pretty much order anything that you want. Prices are cheap! Very cheap. They have a saltwater well. There tanks are tied into the ocean...pretty wild place IMO.

Petbox: Im not a fan of petbox fish. There tanks are resonably priced. Powerheads/lights/food/etc. etc., I've found to be about 3x's the amount the exact same thing costs you in the states. If you NEED something right away, I say go for it. If you have access to purchase things from the states, do so. Just my Y2.
Petbox is abotu the only place to purchase tanks and hardware.
I think they are open from 10am-8pm.

Makeman DIY stores: They get about the same amount of credit as petbox from me. They have things but it would take a rare fish or peice of livestock to get my attention, and have enough guts to put it in my tank. They close at 8pm I believe.
 
thanks alot magrath! Well if you can pick me up some frags that would be fantastic! I can put them in my 55 gal til the 150 gal is finally ready for my livestock from the 55 gal tank. This week I will be throwing lights on the live rock in the 150 to get the growth started again. What day are you going out? My name is Jeremy, my cell # is 08034214706 and home # 637-2796. Again thanks for the info, definitely got to check out the ppm. what do you think they are putting in their water that makes it so good?
 
Its not what they are putting in, its where they get it from. They have a boat that actually goes out pretty far and then pulls water from about 100 feet down (maybe more) their water is taken from where there is already a large amount of naturally growning corals.

I just don't know how often they go out/re-plenish the water supply...but a little amonia is not bad when you fiqure the quality.
 
15g what does that come out to.......i see magrath gets some for 1200 yen from the ppm. I just don't know if that would be a way to for me, especially since i have this 150 gal.
 
Quick disclamer the above info was provided by Vest, I just cut an pasted an old post. I did not want to get the credit for the hard work Vest put in.

Jeremy,
I also do get my water from PPM. Not sure when I am going to go out. I am heading to Okuma this weekend; however, I am go diving with my wife this Thursday morning. If I do I can pick some up for you then. I will let you know if I go. If not it will probably be the next weekend.

Brad
 
These days, I buy a lot of my corals online at Yahoo and MSN auctions. It's not as good as going locally to get stuff, but it's fun to use, generally has good variety, and the prices are generally lower than most stores, especially if the shipper is local to you.

I get water from a seller that sells it 1150 yen for 20 liters. This is the cheapest in this area. 15 gallons for 400 yen is incredible. I'd even take 15 gallons for 1200 yen. I wonder if they would ship water to Tokyo.
 
thanks brad and thank you vest, good info to know. Just drop me a line if you do pick some frags up. Thanks alot. sangogo, what do mean it is not as good. What have you gotten some stuff that wasn't healthy? Just curious.
 
Generally, most things do come healthy, but it's not nearly as good as seeing it for yourself and picking it up, especially since sometimes the photos can be deceiving.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11220515#post11220515 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Sangogo
Generally, most things do come healthy, but it's not nearly as good as seeing it for yourself and picking it up, especially since sometimes the photos can be deceiving.

Sangogo, Taira-san at ACO seels concentrated water and will ship frags from here. He is the owner of ACO: Aqua Culture Okinawa. Website:
http://www.aquaculture.co.jp/

His number is 098 871 1820 Fax 098 871 1821 PHS 0705 818 3812 His personal e-mail listed on his card: eiko_taira@aquaculture.co.jp

Hope this helps. Drop him a line and I AM SURE HE can help. Getting a bag od his concentrted water and you diluting it might be the way to go for you. Short of making it yourself.:D
 
The website says that it's been concentrated to double strength. Sounds good. How much do you pay for it? Should I tell him that I know you?

I've only made my own water like twice ever. It was a pain, which is why I use the open and pour stuff. But recently, the salinity has been really low.
 
When the salinity is low, I just add a little bit of my salt to it in order to bring it to my tank's parameters. I find it cheaper to buy pure water than to buy salt water period. I ordered 5 bags of 50 pound bags of KENT Marine salt b/c of the high calcium content but I have been using Randy's 2-part solution and can't be happier. I just need to be better at checking my levels in order to remain constant. I currently keep my at 1.024. Alk 9-10 dHk, Ca 450, Mag 1450~1500.

YES Please!!! Let him know that you heard it from me...He is a genuine advocate of our cause and he needs to know that his services are sought both locally and abroad. He has definitely been an asset to me, so I want to share his knowledge and service. I haven't been to PPM in a year + since I have met him...
 
what does he know you as?

I want to build some kind of auto-topoff eventually, but I'm quite sure what kind. What is your setup for this?
 
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