Group Buy - Ozone Setup

Marc Daniels

Premium Member
This is a group buy I'm heading for MARS, and I wanted to extend the offer to the BAR members as well. I can deliver them to a single location in the Bay Area, but they would need to be distributed from there.

Okay, I did my homework and this is what I am able to get the club.

Enaly Ozone Generator
Model OZX-300U
Link to Specifications
This is the same brand of generator that Eric Borneman is using, and the one he spoke about at the recent SEABAY meeting.

Milwaukee ORP Controller
Model SMS510
Link to Specifications

Air Dryer - 500 gram
Model RS30040
This unit holds 500g of silica beads. The beads can be baked to recharge them.

Total Price $159.79 (price includes shipping)
We need a minimum or 10 orders to get this pricing.

All you need to add is carbon, and ozone safe tubing (some tubing comes with the Enaly generator). You should run carbon on top of the air vent hole, and also on the output from the skimmer or ozone reactor.

To give you some idea of the value in this deal. The cheapest (shipped) I could find the generator was $68.50 on eBay. The air dryer was $29.99+ shipping, and the Milwaukee controller was $119.99+ shipping (prices quoted from Custom Aquatic).
Retail Price $218.48 + some shipping
Our Price $159.79 + nothing
Savings $58.69 +
I figure the savings would be approx $75 total when you add UPS ground shipping from L.A.

The cutoff for this group deal is Friday, August 19 at Midnight PST. Local only, I don't want to do any shipping.

DO NOT PM ME! Please send me an e-mail directly at dmdaniels67@comcast.net
I'll accept cash/check via snail mail, or you can Paypal me. The Paypal price is $165 to cover my fees.

Marc Daniels
 
Lefty said:

Sorry. The search function has been temporarily disabled due to high server load. Please try your search again in a few minutes. Other site features will still be functional.

Check out our Premium Membership Program for higher priority access to the search engine as well as other nice features.

Tips & Trivia:
Banging on the search button rapidly only makes it less likely that you will get in. Please use common sense when accessing limited resources. Wait at least a few seconds before trying again - even better try again in a few minutes. Thanks!
:D :D I wonder why this board has a search function half the time.

Google is much nicer.. here's a link to something at MD
http://www.marinedepot.com/aquarium...rticles_paletta_ozone_ozonizers.asp?ast=&key=
 
The one thing about the enaly units from prior posts is that it will not play well with an Aquacontroller unit, and they are not adjustable (which isn't an issue if you are using it with a controller).
 
I have also heard bad things about the Enaly Ozone Generator. Messes up X10 controllers. Makes the speakers in the house buzz, etc. Still does crazy stuff when you put one of those signal cancelers on the circuit too. It does work with the Milwaukee ORP Controller however so you don't need to worry to much about an overdose.

here is a good thread on Ozone for all reading this thread
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=517084&perpage=&pagenumber=1
 
How do you control the output of the ozone generator? 200-300mg/hr is a really high amount of ozone; for most of us that's too much ozone for even a 200g tank. Here's a quote from JB-NY on the ozone thread:

The main thing to keep in mind that when running ozone you should not smell anything from it's use. If you can smell ozone (to me it's the same smell a laser printer makes when it's printing) you are using too much and should simply dial it sown a bit. FWIW I am running my red sea 200mg ozone generator at about 15-20% (280 gallons total system volume) and I can smell no ozone at all when it is running. Also, I run ozone only for 4 hours a day.


I would be interested in adding ozone; but the question I have is how much is really needed and how would you control an ozonizer that provides much more than you would likely need.
 
The controller takes care of that Russ. It turns it on as needed. With a larger burst, it'll simply be one less.
 
Hmm... I would think that running a moderate/low level of ozone for longer period of time would be more stable addition than a higher burst that is infrequent. From what I have read and learned about nutrient levels, rapid changes in nutrient concentrations and ORP can be stressful to corals. I know there are few cases reported of ozone causing corals to bleach, etc. but if I am going to add ozone I would like to start it at low concentration to be sure that it is not getting back to the tank and not overly stripping the water of organics initially.

I'm thinking of adding the ozone to improve the skimemr's removal of bacteria. Lately I have had times where the bacteria blooms and makes the tankwater appear cloudy. This is a result of vinegar dosing (similar effect of vodka dosing). From what I have read, ozone will go well with vodka/vinegar regimen as it kills the bacteria and helps it to skim out.

Could someone elaborate on Bornerman's suggestion for using this ozone unit? What size tank volume was this ozonizer recommended for?
 
I'm also concerned about the high amounts that this unit puts out; my tank is only about 160g.. but after lots of reading i've concluded that i would go with this b/c:

a.) the price :D

b.) there are various ways to run this unit less efficiently so you don't get the advertised 200-300mg/hr.. i.e. no air dryer, or tee off the output so one ends goes into the skimmer and the other into a bag of carbon.

c.) looks like there plenty of people out there using the exact same unit in controlled hours and continuous use without having problems..

basically i'm planning to start slow and low by running it only a few hours a day and not using the air dryer.. this should drop the efficiency down dramatically.. i figure once i get the hang of things, i would add the air dryer and/or increase the running hours.. the controller is always there as a failsafe.
 
You can also add it to a "reactor" that you can controll the flow thru. Any vessal that holds water would be fine for that job.
 
RustySnail said:
Could someone elaborate on Bornerman's suggestion for using this ozone unit? What size tank volume was this ozonizer recommended for?
I can't recall the exact size, but I seem to recall that it was in the 300 gallon range. I remember that his main tank was somewhat larger than my upcoming tank. Privately, he said that he thought the unit's size would still work on my 170. He says that he runs his 24x7 without a monitor/controller. I believe he said that he started out running it for a partial day, but switched to full time when he saw no bad effects. He is a fairly recent convert from Sanjay.

I'm on the fence on this deal, myself. I think the deal itself sounds great, but I'd like to know more about electrical interference (both for reef electronics down the road and the rest of the house), ORP probe life (1 year, as suggested above?), and the Enaly unit reliability. Eric said that he had gone through a Red Sea and another brand, both of which failed shortly after putting them into service. It sounds like ozone generators in general may not be particularly reliable.
 
I decided to go with this setup due to the price. The units produced for the induistry are WAY overpriced.

In my research, the Enaly units seem to be at least as dependable as the units produced specifically for the aquarium industry.

Yes, the probes do need to be replaced every year or so. I didn't think about it, but I can get the probes for $30. If anyone wants an extra probe, or two, that would be no problem. But, even at $60 per year, I have thousands in hardware alone, and don't even want to think about the price in livestock. After that, what's $60?

It seems that a LOT of the professional setups, as well as public aquariums, are running ozone. Calfo speaks highly of it when used correctly, and Borneman is using it. I'm not one to get on the boat, but if Borneman is using the Enaly then that's just about good enough of an endorsement for me.

Marc
 
Back
Top