How long do those backup batteries last?

rykwong

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I was thinking about buying one I saw on sale at Office Depot for $70. If I hooked a 18Watt Seio just to maintain flow, any idea how long it would last on the battery? Thanks!

Rich
 
Re: How long do those backup batteries last?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8894303#post8894303 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rykwong
I was thinking about buying one I saw on sale at Office Depot for $70. If I hooked a 18Watt Seio just to maintain flow, any idea how long it would last on the battery? Thanks!

Rich

Depend.


It all depend on what unit you buy...They should have the rating on them.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8895015#post8895015 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by laverda
For $70. it should be at least a 500 so it should last a good while on it.

Hey Steve,
I think it was a 500. How long is a good while? 2 hours? or 10 hours? or more? Thanks!

Rich
 
You gotta do a little math:

Volts * Amps = VA

To get runtime on a UPS use the following calculation (taken from http://www.mhpower.com.au/nikobe/html/sizingguide.html)

"Divide the rating in VA of the UPS by the rating in VA of the load. If the result is less than 1.3 these calculations cannot be used. Where the result of the above division is greater than 1.3 but less than 3, multiply this result by 1.3 x the full load backup time of the UPS to obtain the backup time at the lower load. Where the result is greater than 3 user a 1.5 multiplier.

Examples:

600VA UPS with full load backup time of 10 minutes.

Load of 250 VA. 600/250 = 2.4. So multiplier is 1.3.
Therefore, backup time for 250 VA load on 600VA UPS = 2.4 x 1.3 x 10 = 31.2 minutes approximately.

Load 120 VA. 600/120 = 5. So multiplier is 1.5
Therefore backup time for 120 VA load on 600VA UPS = 5 x 1.5 x 10 = 75 minutes approximately."

Factors throwing these results off would be overhead, startup load, differences between inductive loads -vs- electronic loads etc, but this will give you a general idea. The best way to tell is to do a dry (or wet in our case) run with your UPS and load.
 
You're welcome.

For the impending outtage on Friday in my neighborhood, I plan on having around 200W load on a 2200VA UPS.

To get amps, using ohms law:
Amps = Watts ÷ Volts (I=P÷ E)

I=200 ÷ 120 = 1.6A

VA = 120 * 1.6 = 192VA for my load

2200 / 192 (Rating of UPS / My VA load) = 11.46
We will use a 3 multiplier (see above).
Full load runtime of this UPS is 5.2 minutes (at 1980 watts)

11.46 * 3 * 5.2 = 179 minutes. Im in trouble!

I need 8 hours. SO I probably wont run heaters, and I need some battery operated air pumps.
 
All that is great to have on hand in case of an emergency but why not just rent a generator since you already know that the power will be out. You never know about the electric company they say 8 but it could as well be 4….12…24…48+ hours for all you know. Remember hugo? they said a x hours but it turned out to be days..
 
KWoo008; Thats a real good price for 1000VA.
rykwong and any one else considering using a battery backUP. Not all pumps will run on battery backups. They also tend to run hotter. Also the larger 800+ ones usually have betterwave form for running pumps. You best bet is to get on and run you pump and see what happens. Inother words try it out before you need it. I have a 1000VA one with additional batttery pack(tripples my VA) for my main 15th HP pump and it works well. The pump is a little noisy and runs hotter, but it will run fo over an hour on the bac`k up. A tunze nano stream at only 7 Watts would be ideal for this application, if they will run on the BackUPS. http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewItem.asp?idproduct=TZ1211
The cheap battery air pumps last a long tim and work well. http://www.marinedepot.com/md_searc...ext=Aeration&step=1&itemsonpage=15&Clearance=
 
Anyone with a UPS ever modify them to use larger deep cycle marine batteries? Seems like a cheap alternative to buying the larger UPS. Pro's Con's to modifying UPS?
 
I think Bassnman11 rigged up a deep cycle battery converter that worked well for him. Try sending him a PM.
 
Office Depot has the 1500 VA battery back UPS I use on sale for 240. it is a tall thin design making it easier to fit some places. You can also get an addon battery pack for this one.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9037546#post9037546 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by laverda
Office Depot has the 1500 VA battery back UPS I use on sale for 240. it is a tall thin design making it easier to fit some places. You can also get an addon battery pack for this one.

Decent deal on the APC® BX 1500 Battery Back-UPS, 110-Minute, 1500VA.... $99.99 from Office Depot as well... not sure about expansion. At that price you could have several!
 
The expansion pack give it 3 time the battery power if I remember correctly. and it has quick disconects so you coul have a couple of them if you wanted.
 
Buy.com has the Belkin 550VA Battery Backup with Surge Protection for $49 with free shipping. Covered by a 3-year warranty, with easy to replace batteries for extended product life
 
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