How long does your CO2 last?

ej797

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I am getting ready to purchase my first CO2 cannister and I am not sure what size to get. If those of you who use cannisters could post the following items it would be great!

Tank Size in Gallons:
Cylincer Size in Pounds:
How long a full cylinder lasts before you have to fill it in months:

I'm not sure if anything else would affect the time between fills but if there is please let me know.

Thanks,
EJ
 
I had used a reactor for about 6 months before I sold it. I had a 5 lb container- and it still had a good amount in it when I emptied it- used on a 175 gallon tank.
 
EJ:

It will much depend on your consumption. In general you will use about 1 pounds of CO2 for every 1.5 pounds of media you need to dissolve. The overall reactor efficiency is about 75%. With that utilization one pound of media will provide about 5040 dKh of alkalinity to 1 gallon of system water.

So to approximate how many days a cylinder will last you can use the following formula based on the above numbers:

Days = (CylCap x 5040)/(0.67 x SysVol x AlkCon)

Where:
Days = How many days a cylinder with a given CylCap will last
CylCap = Cylinder Capacity in pounds of CO2
SysVol = Your aquarium system total water volume in gallons including sump and periferals
AlkCon = Daily Alkalinity consumption in dKh per day

as an example:

If you have a system with 130 gallons with an alkalinity consumption of 1.5 dKh per day, a 5 pound CO2 cylinder will last:

Days = (5 x 5040) / (0.67 x 130 x 1.5) = 25200 / 130.65 = 193 days
or about 6 months and 12 days

In other words and the equation (and logic) can tell:

The larger the cylinder, the smaller the system and the lower the alkalinity consumption, the longer the cylinder will last. :D

Note this is an approximation as with many things CO2 can leak, pass trough the reactor unused, the assumption of reactor efficiency changes with reactor design etc so consider these numbers +/- 20 % but will give you a rough order of magnitude.

Enjoy!
 
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With that utilization one pound of media will provide about 5040 dKh of alkalinity to 1 gallon of system water.

Did you mean 1 pound of CO2?

What is the .67 for in the equation?

I understand the formula but have no idea of how to figure out what my consumption would be!
 
I wouldn't worry about it too much, a 5 lb CO2 bottle is fine for most. If you have really high calcium demands then you might need a 10 lb bottle, but most people get a 10 lb bottle purely for convenience and not because they run out of CO2 so quickly they would need one.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11322030#post11322030 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ej797
Did you mean 1 pound of CO2?

What is the .67 for in the equation?

I understand the formula but have no idea of how to figure out what my consumption would be!

1 pounds of calcium reactor media (calcium carbonate) adds the 5040 dkh of alkalinity per gallon of water. You need aprox 1 pound of CO2 to dissolve 1.5 pounds of media thus the CO2 consumption is 0.67 (1/1.5) of that of the media consumption.

If your tank will be new and you have not an established consumption you can aproximate the following:

Fish only with live rock: about 0.75 to 1 dKh per day
Reef aquarium with softies and some LPS: about 1.3 to 1.7 dKh per day
Mixed reef with LPS and sps corals: about 1.6 to 2.2 dKh per day
Fully stocked sps reef with some clams: about 2.5 to 3.1 dKh per day.

BTW I have 330 gallons in my reef system mostly sps corals and a large clam. I go trough a 20 pound cylinder in 9 months.

Something to consider is that the smaller the cylinder the most difficult it will be to find a place to fill it. I would not recommend going below 5 pounds with 10 or larger being the easier to have filled.
 
Paintball stores are great for filling small cyclinders, the welding supply and such will be better for larger bottles.
 
Awesome, you guys have been a great help! Now, I am considering making it a tight fit and jumping up to a 10LB cylinder!!!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11322430#post11322430 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by McCrary
Paintball stores are great for filling small cyclinders, the welding supply and such will be better for larger bottles.
Just be careful, some paintball cylinder filling systems may contain traces of compresor oil in the CO2. Purity for this application is not critical and similarly purity is not critical with CO2 for extinguishers. CO2 purity is critical for welding, medical, laser and lab applications so the one supplied for that purpose may insure the product is clean.
 
I have a 180 Reef, mostly SPS in there. My coral growth is GREAT! I use a 5 Lb. cylinder that I fill up about every 6 to 8 months.
 
For the most part, at least where I am, filling a 10 lb canister is only $1 less then a 20 lb. 5 lb is only about $12 cheaper. This is at a local welding/gas supply company.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11326319#post11326319 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ej797
Okay, so I have decided on a 20lb bottle. So much for space concerns!!!

Thanks Everyone!!
EJ

Hey, your pm box is full, anyway I got your pumps, they look good, again thanks.

Loc
 
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