How many is too many?
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Fish-o-holic
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You answered your own question. 
dragon_slayer
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you also have to keep in mind that when you get to a point your adding alk and Ca is going to cause the problems. either your going to be in overdrive with a Ca reactor and your pushing your PH down by trying to keep up with demands or your adding kalk and getting the spike, or doing both and hope like hell you can keep up and keep a balance.
its best to be reasonable with the #'s and keep in mind the size they get.
kc
its best to be reasonable with the #'s and keep in mind the size they get.
kc
Vili_Shark
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I dont think ca and alk will be a problem as long as you got a good reactor and that you monitor those regulary.
I think the problem will be the biological load, do you ave enough to keep them?
Those clams needs food, and when you get many, I dont think the regular feeding in the aquarium will be enough.
I think the problem will be the biological load, do you ave enough to keep them?
Those clams needs food, and when you get many, I dont think the regular feeding in the aquarium will be enough.
dragon_slayer
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Vili_Shark
while clams do filter feed, when they get to 3+ inches they rely on light for most all their nutritional needs. clams of a decent size require a huge amount of Ca and Alk because they consume it at alarming rates in the development of their shells. Large clams put a huge demand on your Ca levels and this would be harder to keep up with then feeding of them.
kc
while clams do filter feed, when they get to 3+ inches they rely on light for most all their nutritional needs. clams of a decent size require a huge amount of Ca and Alk because they consume it at alarming rates in the development of their shells. Large clams put a huge demand on your Ca levels and this would be harder to keep up with then feeding of them.
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Vili_Shark
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Hi Dragon,
I'm well aware of the Ca used by clams especially the large ones.
That's why I wrote that a good reactor and monitoring the levels would be OK.
If one intend to keep many clams I always suggest to buy a bigger model of reactor than what is good for the tank volume.(of course good monitoring of the value should be applied in order to achieve the rigth Ca).
I think the biological load is a bigger problem, that you cant achieve with a reactor.
I'm well aware of the Ca used by clams especially the large ones.
That's why I wrote that a good reactor and monitoring the levels would be OK.
If one intend to keep many clams I always suggest to buy a bigger model of reactor than what is good for the tank volume.(of course good monitoring of the value should be applied in order to achieve the rigth Ca).
I think the biological load is a bigger problem, that you cant achieve with a reactor.
dragon_slayer
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your saying the clams cause the bigger bio-load?
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manderx
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i've always heard that clams consume more waste than they contribute. i have 6 clams in a 50 gallon, including a big squamosa. those plus my big red cap are consuming calcium faster than i can dose. i'm dosing well over twice the specified max dosage of 2-part and i'm still having a hard time keeping it over 400.
dragon_slayer
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Manderx, that was the exact point i was getting at, the clams filter the water and remove more from it then they ever put back into it. its the Ca and Alk demands they put on a tank that cause the biggest problems with a tank 'full' of them.
have you gave the kalk slurry a try on your system to keep up with demands as opposed to the 2 part?
kc
have you gave the kalk slurry a try on your system to keep up with demands as opposed to the 2 part?
kc
Vili_Shark
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Dragon,
sorry for not expressing myself right.
My meaning is that Clams need the bio load for rapid growth.
When there's few clams, with strong light, it wont make a difference.
But when there are many clams and no bio load, so there might be a problem.
I say again, that I agree about the Ca and Alk, but it's really not a problem if you buy a good reactor that can handle this Ca consumpsion.
sorry for not expressing myself right.
My meaning is that Clams need the bio load for rapid growth.
When there's few clams, with strong light, it wont make a difference.
But when there are many clams and no bio load, so there might be a problem.
I say again, that I agree about the Ca and Alk, but it's really not a problem if you buy a good reactor that can handle this Ca consumpsion.
dragon_slayer
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thanks for clearing that up Vili_Shark, i was thinking you ment the clams cause a huge bio-load.
as for the 'good reactor' if you had say 10 large (12+ inch) in a 200g system, you would need something like the Deltec P1000 reactor to keep up with the demand.
kc
as for the 'good reactor' if you had say 10 large (12+ inch) in a 200g system, you would need something like the Deltec P1000 reactor to keep up with the demand.
kc
Vili_Shark
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Hey Dragon,
Good to know that you know Deltec.
I like what they're doing.
I know many people who are keeping clams but I never saw anybody keeping 10pcs of 12"+ clams, especially not in a tank as only 200g, I mean, do they have a place for one piece of rock between the clams?
The P1000 is recomended for 5000L. of heavy stocking, 200g are little less than 800L. even if yu cut what Deltec says in half, you still have a 2500L.
Good to know that you know Deltec.
I like what they're doing.
I know many people who are keeping clams but I never saw anybody keeping 10pcs of 12"+ clams, especially not in a tank as only 200g, I mean, do they have a place for one piece of rock between the clams?
The P1000 is recomended for 5000L. of heavy stocking, 200g are little less than 800L. even if yu cut what Deltec says in half, you still have a 2500L.
dragon_slayer
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Rothie do a search and also include Anthony Calfo's name in the search. there are several hundred posts here about it. if the search function is down, try it at a later time when the server isn't so tied up.
kc
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