Interest in doubling the growth rate of corals?

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

I'm trying to gauge commercial interest in a potential new product.

This product would be something that you add to a reef aquarium, frag grow out tank, or coral farm. Suppose for this poll that it doubled (or more) the growth rate of the hard corals in your aquarium (especially SPS). Also suppose that it doubles the growth rate of coralline algae, but does not impact the growth rate of noncalcifying organisms (like green algae, diatoms, etc).

It would be a discrete organic molecule that worked by a mechanism of action identified on the bottle. It would not be a concoction of different organic or inorganic compounds, and it is not a food.

Thanks in advance for your input.

 

[Gary Majchrzak]

Alright.... I feel like a noob again. What's up, Randy?

 

[SeanT]

Seriously, if such a product is/will be available, what possible detrimental effects would/could it have on other organisms in the reef?
And what time frame for availability?

Thanks,
Sean

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

It's not ready for prime time yet. I just want to gauge if it is worth pursuing.

 

[Old Yeller Tang]

At the rate that my corals are growing, I would love to them a boost!

 

[SeanT]

I just want to gauge if it is worth pursuing.

On a global scale...no.
In our hobby...hell yeah!!!


Did you suddenly have an epipheny on something that may work or have you been pondering thi for awhile now?

 

[3_high_low]

Re: Interest in doubling the growth rate of corals?

Show me a reefer that wouldn't and I'll show you a liar.

Growth = $

 

[SeanT]

Re: Re: Interest in doubling the growth rate of corals?

Re: Re: Interest in doubling the growth rate of corals?

Show me a reefer that wouldn't and I'll show you a liar.

Growth = $

I can email you a list of about 50 companies that wouldn't want to see this.

To them... growth = (-)$

 

[3_high_low]

Re: Re: Re: Interest in doubling the growth rate of corals?

Re: Re: Re: Interest in doubling the growth rate of corals?

I can email you a list of about 50 companies that wouldn't want to see this.

To them... growth = (-)$

Who Sean? NoticeI said "reefer". By that I mean aquarist.

 

[SeanT]

I realize that.
I was commenting that vendors would not like to see this.

 

[MiddletonMark]

It would very radically affect aquaculture, esp in the states .... which to me would/could radically alter the hobby in a good way.

If you can make it more feasible to grow and sell SPS by aquarists ... that would be a huge benefit to the hobby, hopefully reducing collection of at least some species. :thumbsup:

 

[justgettinstarted]

i am guessing this substance would basically turn the calcification gene on and into overdrive? Or block the transduction pathway that tells the photosynthetic cells when they have had enough light and its time to turn off???

Randy you want to give everyone's corals on steroids? LOL...

i personaly dont see a problem, as long as use of the product doesnt lead to genetic problems with the coral down the line after extended use.

Just a guess... Because you specification that it had no inorganic components leads me to believe that it is not a fertalizer, at least in the classical sence of the word

 

[hwynboy]

That is soooo not nice Randy

This is worse than that woman I was dating when we went to a drive in movie...bah nevermind this is a family board
Give it up! we are ready for it.

 

[rleechb]

oh cmon randy! it's been done already! I believe there are several marc weiss products that do that!

 

[szwab]

depends.....
does 2x growth = weaker branches that are brittle

 

[JoeMack]

oh cmon randy! it's been done already! I believe there are several marc weiss products that do that!

Heh! I'm actually a spectra vital user. Came free with the tank.

Randy, Sounds like one heck of a product. How long do you think it would take to get into the testing of this product? Months, years, or who knows? Keep us informed if you decide to pursue

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Thanks for the input, everyone.

It should not take too long to see if, in fact, it is safe enough for a reef aquarium (as opposed to a frag tank with many fewer organisms to worry about), that it does, in fact, increase calcification and growth rates, and whether there are undesirable effects (like the brittle branches mentioned above).

I'd be quite happy to describe it in detail, and eventually will (even if it fails), but I'm still undecided on whether it is worth patenting, and so do not want to say anything specific about it yet.

 

[Energy]

Tease!

 

[edsreef]

Didn't have the option to vote this way, but I'd have to say "Definately Maybe" in my case. I'm growing out lotsa frags in my main tank that will eventually become my centerpieces. I'd want to know HOW they grew (ie; how they looked; formed differently) from time-lapsed photos of people who've tried it. I wouldn't want to try it if it caused the growth to appear "freakish" or unnatural or had long-term side effects.

 

[Trumpet12]

It sounds very interesting to me.