Joes Juice flame test

[wayne in norway]

Has anyone flame tested Joes Juice? I would, but I have no access to a gas flame.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Tested it for what? A little sodium or mostly sodium will still show up as sodium in a simple flame test.

 

[wayne in norway]

I was rather hoping to see if it's largely kalk, or as has been claimed elsewhere , potassium iodide

 

[jfinch]

I'm pretty sure it's just kalk.

It looks like kalk.
It's got a very high pH.
It's got tons of calcium in it.

If it looks like a duck it probalby is.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

I sure hope it isn't potassium iodide.

 

[MR.MORAY]

ALONG FOR THE RIDE

 

[Habib]

Strontium gives a nicer color.

 

[jfinch]

What color would the strontium flame be?

I sold back my qualitative chem book that had a nice list of many flame colors

 

[Boomer]

Another geology thing jon It is a brilliant dark red, i.e, Crimson.

http://webmineral.com/help/FlameTest.shtml

http://www.3rd1000.com/labs/group4.htm

http://wulfenite.fandm.edu/labtech/qualanal.htm

 

[Habib]

What color would the strontium flame be?

I sold back my qualitative chem book that had a nice list of many flame colors

IIRC from approx 28 years ago... Sr would be red, Na yellow/golden.

IIRC I used a Pt ring, some HCl and a Bunsen burner.

 

[Habib]

I was typing/thinking when Boomer posted.

I'm glad my memory is not too bad.

 

[Boomer]

Yah, you slid by again :lol:

 

[bertoni]

I will flame-test some tonight. Sounds like a good activity for my pyromaniac alter ego. Can I use a utility knife as the support?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Yes. But try the knife alone to see how orange/yellow it is from trace sodium on it.

 

[bertoni]

Okay, tests done. I used two (rusty) utility knife blades and my kitchen gas oven.

The blades didn't seem to have much effect on the flame until Joe's Juice was added. The Juice puts out a lot of orange-ish yellow light, after the liquid evaporates. I tried repeatedly with the clean knife blade ends and the ends with Joe's Juice, but only the Juice parts produced the color. The flame looked much like orange-ish yellow color from the oven-top when it's not burning so cleanly, maybe more orange in the center of the flare.

 

[jfinch]

That sounds like calcium based on boomer's links. Try the same thing wil kalkwasser or turbo calcium (CaCl2) to see if it's the same color.

 

[bertoni]

Okay, will do. I like burning things...

 

[wayne in norway]

That sounds like sodium to me. I know calcium should be 'brick red'. I recall it being quite distinctive.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

I agree with the sodium. Here's a list:
http://www.gcsescience.com/a/f16.htm

 

[MiddletonMark]

Okay, will do. I like burning things...

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