Just a quickie! Perc's or Ocellaris

[mark97r6]

Hey guys,
just a check really. I have this pair of clowns i bought from a guy tearing his tank down, as they were regular spawners.
He bought them as and beleived them to be A. ocellaris, but i personally (mainly becasue of the black bars) think they are A. perculas.
What do you all think?

The female

And the happy couple

Thanks as always for the help.
Mark

 

[JHardman]

The female is an A. ocellaris. Get a picture of the male clearly showing his eyes and we can tell what he is too.

 

[mark97r6]

thanks alot for the quick response. My tank lights have just gone off so will get a pic up tomorrow, why the eyes??

Thanks again
Mark

 

[JHardman]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6971502#post6971502 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mark97r6
why the eyes??

Because that is what is used to ID them...

 

[mark97r6]

Thans again, will get a pick up tomorrow.

I am pretty sure they are both the same as the look very similar, but the male is more yellow. Though i will post a pic to be sure.

How do the eyes differ? I thought the difference was in the black barring!

Thanks alot for the help
Mark

 

[MarineTeng]

they both look ocelleris to me, i like to use the black bars, though i think percs can have relatively thinner black bars but more rare then not from what i've seen

 

[TWallace]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6972149#post6972149 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mark97r6
How do the eyes differ? I thought the difference was in the black barring!

Perculas have a black pupil surrounded by a thin orange ring. Ocellaris have a black pupil surrounded by a black ring, giving the appearance of having larger eyes.

 

[mark97r6]

thanks for the help guys, here are a few pics of the male, though he wont remain very stil!! I hope i caught the eyes enough.

Thanks for the tip on the eyes, i have never heard of this before, but after looking at a few pictures of different perc's and Occ's i do see what you mean... And from this i am pretty sure (again:rolleye1 that i have a pair of Ocellaris. Though i would like it confirmed please.

the both look as though they have alot of black to me for Occ's specially the male, but that said i dont think i have ever seen (in person) fully grown Ocellaris clowns.

Thanks again
Mark

 

[JHardman]

Yep, both A. oceallirs.

 

[mark97r6]

Wow, that was quick.
thanks alot for the help.
Mark

 

[phender]

No doubt that they are both ocellaris. The thickness of the black stripes is not a great indicator of ocellaris vs. percula. The black on perculas can be pencil thin, where as the black on ocellaris(like yours) can be thick, although when the black forms a bridge between the white stripes that would be a percula trait.

 

[mark97r6]

Thanks alot guys.

mark

 

[Melnick]

Thread Hijack!

I just picked up a couple of clown fish from my LFS that were both labeled Ocellaris but were in different tanks. After reading this thread I checked out their eyes and one it looks to me like one has a black pupil/black ring and the other has a black pupil/orange ring. To me it seems like thew lighter orange fish has the orange ring. I checked with the LFS again and they are sure they are both Ocellaris - what do you think? (I hope the pics are clear enough)

 

[phender]

Both ocellaris

 

[Melnick]

Thanks! I think it must just be the overall lighter color of the fish contrasting with the black pupil that made me question it. Good to know they are the same!

 

[SDguy]

I've also noticed that the flash from the camera can make things a bit confusing. The flash makes the ring around the pupil look more orange. Here is my ocellaris pair:

With flash:

Without flash: