McPuff's new 300 (transfer from 120)

McPuff

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HI everyone! I'm finally making a post for the tank transfer I've been mentioning for the past 3 months +. Well, it has finally happened. I have had a 120 in-wall for the past 3.5 years and it was doing quite well. Had it pretty well packed with SPS colonies but had the opportunity to move into a 300DD which is quite literally the biggest tank I could possibly fit down my basement stairs.

The whole preparation took about 3 months from start to finish and here's what had to be done:

-Sold off the majority of my SPS colonies to help finance the new build
-5 hour round trip drive to pick up the tank and equipment
-2 weeks out of country for work almost right after this... slowed the whole process!
-Had to clean and prep all the equipment
-Hired a moving company to help me get the 520# tank into the basement... that was not an easy move on a hot day!
-Re-built the stand as it had to be cut in half upon purchase... no way to get it out of the existing house... and no other way to get it into my basement.
-Bleach and acid bath old live rock
-Build new rock scape with aforementioned rock using e-Marco 400... Had to envision how to incorporate my existing live rock into the structure at the same time. This was not an easy task!
-Cleaned the tank, painted the background
-leveled the stand, shimmed the tank
-fill test with tap water
-fill tank with RO/DI water; took 3 days ( ~200 gal) and added 1 box of RC salt
-Made a sand rinsing tool, rinsed 120# of special grade sand; added to the tank using a special "sand-addition tool" (i.e., PVC pipe with a funnel) to minimize the dust storm... still happened but I know it was not as bad as it could have been.
-Turned on circulation pumps (PP-20 x 2), added titanium 800W heater and linked to Apex (tank NOT yet connected to sump)
-siphoned a few gallons of nasty water and a few # of sand from the 120 and dumped into the 300 to establish the bacterial community. Added a couple small live rocks with mushrooms. Also took the marine pure block (8x8x4) out of existing sump and placed into 300 gal. Left the tank like this for a week.
-plumbed the tank through a wall to utilize the existing sump and equipment already in use for the 120; used 1.5" for the twin drains, running as Herbie. Built a 1.5" manifold (4 ports) and have 1" return line going back through wall to the far side of the tank.

At this point I created a video to explain what needed to be done and where I was in that progress... I also used it as an Intro to my new YouTube channel, "McPuff's Laboratory." :0)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFtxKUgLg4k

The actual tank transfer:
-Tested the water in each tank (salinity, alk, ca, mg) to ensure the parameters were equal (or close enough) the day before transfer. Didn't actually have to tweak any parameters!
-pumped about 70 gal of water from the 120 directly into the 300 to fill it remaining amount
-Moved live rock out of 120 and into 300, trying to remember where I had envisioned them. A bit nerve-racking but kind of fun. Brought out the scape I had in my mind which was nice to actually see in reality. Corals were placed wherever they could go and not yet mounted (unless they were already attached to rocks).
-Captured the fish as I was unable... of course, the solar wrasse hitch-hiked in a rock and ended up flopping around on a rubbermaid lid a bit before I could throw it into the 300. It is totally fine!
-Captured and transferred the remaining fish with very little stress. All fish made the transition very well. I gave them lights-out for about 36 hours and they were all out and about before I even added the daylights again... I did, however, have moon lights ON for day 2.

In this video I explain more about the transfer process and how it went... also show you how the new system looks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwB2HKd-nvg

The aftermath of the livestock transfer:
The transfer of livestock was the easy part in this whole process. At this point I'm only about 2 hours in and everybody is settling in to their new home. Now I needed to do the following:
-completely empty the 120 of water and sand
-Remove the bulkheads and plumbing... yes, this was a total pain!
-Get a buddy to help me remove the 120 from the stand and out of the fish/utility room
-Complete the plumbing for the return line (drains were pretty much done already) and manifold; this took a lot longer than I had anticipated!
-hang the Onyx fixtures in the canopy frame on the 300
-Remove macro-algae from the sump and place into remove fuge, which now sits where the 120 sat (40 gal "Tuff Stuff" tub)
-Plumb the new fuge and hang the grow light
-Plumb the calcium reactor (DIY - repurposed a GFO reactor and a Knop C reactor)
-plumb the GFO reactor (not shown in video)
-FIX THE HOLE IN THE DRYWALL... I mention this in the video... it is NOW complete but not shown as such. This was an adventure that I am not totally happy with... I'll have to do some touch-ups.
-re-mount a few corals and rocks... Not yet posted to video but I will do another update when I feel it is "complete." Will be soon.

This final video shows the support system for the 300 and provides a bit of explanation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVVa8jyn5Y8

So that's my big update for now. I'll try to post regular updates on the system progress. One of my biggest motivators for going with a larger tank is that I can now get some tangs and angels which I have missed for a few years. My current fish stock list came entirely from the 120 and is as follows:

-foxface lo
-scopas tang
-pink spot watchman goby (about 10-12 years old)
-pink spot Caribbean hawkfish
-pajama cardinal x2
-solarensis wrasse
-rudy head wrasse (aka blue-side wrasse)
-female Carpenter wrasse
-chromis (just 1!)
-Talbott's damsel
-melanurus wrasse

That's a pretty light fish list for a 300 though they do all seem quite happy to have the added space! :0) That said, I plan to add the following fish:

-small school of silver mollies (great for algae control and provide a live food source, which the wrasses and hawkfish will love)
-Achilles tang
-chocolate/mimic tang (A. pyroferus)
-blonde naso tang
-Lieutenant tang -----The tangs (~3" each) will be quarantined together and added at the same time. Hoping I don't have to use acclimation box to minimize any aggression I would see from the scopas (it is not very big)...

After a few months I would also like to add:

-Blueface angel
-Annularis angel
-fireball or flameback angel ----- the angels will be small juveniles, allowing them to grow into their habitat and I'll just hope for the best with respect to the corals. As you can see in the videos, my goal is to have few colonies that get huge. They should therefore be able to handle some picking here and there.

Eventually I may also add a humu trigger (R. aculeatus) as this is probably my all-time favorite fish. It will live in the fuge at first and will likely be the final addition to the display.

Ok, that is officially the longest post I have ever made... and probably ever will. If you got through it all, congratulations!! :0)
 
Congrats sounds wonderful. I've seen people talk about adding angels to their tanks with coral. i thought angels were a no-no that they picked on corals. I figured mushrooms and leathers were probably safe, is that all you have? Would love to know if there was ever any chance of my emperor going into my main display. It's a mixed tank and really full of colonies, he'd be the only fish aside from 2 mandarins.
 
Congrats sounds wonderful. I've seen people talk about adding angels to their tanks with coral. i thought angels were a no-no that they picked on corals. I figured mushrooms and leathers were probably safe, is that all you have? Would love to know if there was ever any chance of my emperor going into my main display. It's a mixed tank and really full of colonies, he'd be the only fish aside from 2 mandarins.

There are a number of people on this site with multiple large angels in their SPS reefs. Mine is a mixed reef with about an even LPS/SPS split at this point... maybe skewed a bit more towards SPS. I'll probably also add a softy or two, an anemone, and gorgonian.
 
Very nice tank and great move process. In a few weeks, I'll be doing the same. Getting a moving company to move a 360gallon down the basement. Run it. I have new rocks for it and new equipment for it and wait for it to cycle. Transfer the stock and break down the 200gallon.
 
Very nice tank and great move process. In a few weeks, I'll be doing the same. Getting a moving company to move a 360gallon down the basement. Run it. I have new rocks for it and new equipment for it and wait for it to cycle. Transfer the stock and break down the 200gallon.

Awesome! For my transfer, it took about 9-10 hours of pretty solid work. That was last Saturday. I have been working on it each day since for about an hour or so. There is still a bit to go but I'm finally getting to the point where I can relax and just stare at the tank. My point is to be ready for a lot of stress... but it will be worth it!!
 
There are a number of people on this site with multiple large angels in their SPS reefs. Mine is a mixed reef with about an even LPS/SPS split at this point... maybe skewed a bit more towards SPS. I'll probably also add a softy or two, an anemone, and gorgonian.

So is there a chance that my emperor would do okay in a mixed reef display tank? This would be great if it were possible.
 
Awesome! For my transfer, it took about 9-10 hours of pretty solid work. That was last Saturday. I have been working on it each day since for about an hour or so. There is still a bit to go but I'm finally getting to the point where I can relax and just stare at the tank. My point is to be ready for a lot of stress... but it will be worth it!!
I feel you, early this year I have to brake down the 180 and set it back up in a temporary place while I tiled our floor and then set up the 375 and transfer. A lot of work but now I can sit back and look at the tank
 
Angels - keep them well feed and all is good from what I have heard....

posted using alternating currents.....
 
Reason for the moonlighting being on so long?

posted using alternating currents.....

Mostly I just like to be able to see into the tank in the morning. And I figure it can't really hurt anything as it's just 4 x 350mA diodes creating minimal light. At night, it gives the fish an opportunity find a nice place for the night.
 
Love it! Awesome tank! Great videos too. Can you post some stills? Also I salute your bravery in freely showing your unmanaged wires! Mine are a mess too. But hey if its hidden in the cabinet, who cares! Of course there are some beautifully wired setups out there too.
 
HI everyone! I'm finally making a post for the tank transfer I've been mentioning for the past 3 months +. Well, it has finally happened. I have had a 120 in-wall for the past 3.5 years and it was doing quite well. Had it pretty well packed with SPS colonies but had the opportunity to move into a 300DD which is quite literally the biggest tank I could possibly fit down my basement stairs.

The whole preparation took about 3 months from start to finish and here's what had to be done:

-Sold off the majority of my SPS colonies to help finance the new build
-5 hour round trip drive to pick up the tank and equipment
-2 weeks out of country for work almost right after this... slowed the whole process!
-Had to clean and prep all the equipment
-Hired a moving company to help me get the 520# tank into the basement... that was not an easy move on a hot day!
-Re-built the stand as it had to be cut in half upon purchase... no way to get it out of the existing house... and no other way to get it into my basement.
-Bleach and acid bath old live rock
-Build new rock scape with aforementioned rock using e-Marco 400... Had to envision how to incorporate my existing live rock into the structure at the same time. This was not an easy task!
-Cleaned the tank, painted the background
-leveled the stand, shimmed the tank
-fill test with tap water
-fill tank with RO/DI water; took 3 days ( ~200 gal) and added 1 box of RC salt
-Made a sand rinsing tool, rinsed 120# of special grade sand; added to the tank using a special "sand-addition tool" (i.e., PVC pipe with a funnel) to minimize the dust storm... still happened but I know it was not as bad as it could have been.
-Turned on circulation pumps (PP-20 x 2), added titanium 800W heater and linked to Apex (tank NOT yet connected to sump)
-siphoned a few gallons of nasty water and a few # of sand from the 120 and dumped into the 300 to establish the bacterial community. Added a couple small live rocks with mushrooms. Also took the marine pure block (8x8x4) out of existing sump and placed into 300 gal. Left the tank like this for a week.
-plumbed the tank through a wall to utilize the existing sump and equipment already in use for the 120; used 1.5" for the twin drains, running as Herbie. Built a 1.5" manifold (4 ports) and have 1" return line going back through wall to the far side of the tank.

At this point I created a video to explain what needed to be done and where I was in that progress... I also used it as an Intro to my new YouTube channel, "McPuff's Laboratory." :0)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFtxKUgLg4k

The actual tank transfer:
-Tested the water in each tank (salinity, alk, ca, mg) to ensure the parameters were equal (or close enough) the day before transfer. Didn't actually have to tweak any parameters!
-pumped about 70 gal of water from the 120 directly into the 300 to fill it remaining amount
-Moved live rock out of 120 and into 300, trying to remember where I had envisioned them. A bit nerve-racking but kind of fun. Brought out the scape I had in my mind which was nice to actually see in reality. Corals were placed wherever they could go and not yet mounted (unless they were already attached to rocks).
-Captured the fish as I was unable... of course, the solar wrasse hitch-hiked in a rock and ended up flopping around on a rubbermaid lid a bit before I could throw it into the 300. It is totally fine!
-Captured and transferred the remaining fish with very little stress. All fish made the transition very well. I gave them lights-out for about 36 hours and they were all out and about before I even added the daylights again... I did, however, have moon lights ON for day 2.

In this video I explain more about the transfer process and how it went... also show you how the new system looks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwB2HKd-nvg

The aftermath of the livestock transfer:
The transfer of livestock was the easy part in this whole process. At this point I'm only about 2 hours in and everybody is settling in to their new home. Now I needed to do the following:
-completely empty the 120 of water and sand
-Remove the bulkheads and plumbing... yes, this was a total pain!
-Get a buddy to help me remove the 120 from the stand and out of the fish/utility room
-Complete the plumbing for the return line (drains were pretty much done already) and manifold; this took a lot longer than I had anticipated!
-hang the Onyx fixtures in the canopy frame on the 300
-Remove macro-algae from the sump and place into remove fuge, which now sits where the 120 sat (40 gal "Tuff Stuff" tub)
-Plumb the new fuge and hang the grow light
-Plumb the calcium reactor (DIY - repurposed a GFO reactor and a Knop C reactor)
-plumb the GFO reactor (not shown in video)
-FIX THE HOLE IN THE DRYWALL... I mention this in the video... it is NOW complete but not shown as such. This was an adventure that I am not totally happy with... I'll have to do some touch-ups.
-re-mount a few corals and rocks... Not yet posted to video but I will do another update when I feel it is "complete." Will be soon.

This final video shows the support system for the 300 and provides a bit of explanation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVVa8jyn5Y8

So that's my big update for now. I'll try to post regular updates on the system progress. One of my biggest motivators for going with a larger tank is that I can now get some tangs and angels which I have missed for a few years. My current fish stock list came entirely from the 120 and is as follows:

-foxface lo
-scopas tang
-pink spot watchman goby (about 10-12 years old)
-pink spot Caribbean hawkfish
-pajama cardinal x2
-solarensis wrasse
-rudy head wrasse (aka blue-side wrasse)
-female Carpenter wrasse
-chromis (just 1!)
-Talbott's damsel
-melanurus wrasse

That's a pretty light fish list for a 300 though they do all seem quite happy to have the added space! :0) That said, I plan to add the following fish:

-small school of silver mollies (great for algae control and provide a live food source, which the wrasses and hawkfish will love)
-Achilles tang
-chocolate/mimic tang (A. pyroferus)
-blonde naso tang
-Lieutenant tang -----The tangs (~3" each) will be quarantined together and added at the same time. Hoping I don't have to use acclimation box to minimize any aggression I would see from the scopas (it is not very big)...

After a few months I would also like to add:

-Blueface angel
-Annularis angel
-fireball or flameback angel ----- the angels will be small juveniles, allowing them to grow into their habitat and I'll just hope for the best with respect to the corals. As you can see in the videos, my goal is to have few colonies that get huge. They should therefore be able to handle some picking here and there.

Eventually I may also add a humu trigger (R. aculeatus) as this is probably my all-time favorite fish. It will live in the fuge at first and will likely be the final addition to the display.

Ok, that is officially the longest post I have ever made... and probably ever will. If you got through it all, congratulations!! :0)



Congrats on the upgrade!!!


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Love it! Awesome tank! Great videos too. Can you post some stills? Also I salute your bravery in freely showing your unmanaged wires! Mine are a mess too. But hey if its hidden in the cabinet, who cares! Of course there are some beautifully wired setups out there too.

Oh the wires! Just glad that most of that mess is contained behind a wall. I bought some slotted wire channels and now I'm waiting for a chance to install those and clean up as much of that wire mess as possible. There's still a lot of minor clean up to do such as hiding the drain and return pipes that go through the wall. The hole from the 120 is now patched and painted though I do want to touch it up a bit more and improve it. The last step will be creating a cabinet skin for the stand and canopy... that is a winter project for sure.
 
I'll try to post some pics soon... but I really don't want to create an account just so I can post photos. I wish it were easier to simply add photos in RC...
 
Tapatalk dude.. It has it's pains, but for adding photos on rc, it's great...

From note 5.. rip note 7
 
Just click on the "My RC" button at the top of the page.

Then click on albums and photos, then click on upload photos. Upload your pics. (RC prefers pics 600 pixels wide @ 72 dpi, but I often go 800 wide)

Open a new window and get to the last page of your thread and start a new reply.

In the other window click on the pic you want to place in your thread. It will enlarge and you will see two lines of code below it. Copy the bottom code, then paste it into your reply on your thread.

That's it. No external account needed.
 
Hi all. Made an update to highlight a few changes that I finally got the time to make. Not shown is the slotted wire channel I used to hide a bunch of cables behind the wall. Really cleans things up a lot. Anyway, check it out. I'll try to start posting some pics as well but I think the video is a nice medium as I can explain as I go. Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbio2nZBSJU
 
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