MOD seaclone skimmer

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i got this from wetwebmedia.com has anybody tried this
SeaClone Modifications

by Clinton Yiu


Introduction
The Seaclone is not that bad of a skimmer. Considering its price and power consumption it is one of the better low-end models. Many reefers say it is useless and doesn't skim (if at all) as much as their Turboflotor,etc but that's like comparing apples to oranges. This is an unfair comparison since the Seaclone only uses a Maxi-Jet 1000 for both water flow and bubble generation and is about 1/4 the cost.


If you are reading this then you probably have a Seaclone already. So I won't elaborate on its description or the nature of its design (counter current). In an effort to avoid any confusion the terminology used in this write-up is as follows. The inner tube is the 1" diameter riser at the centre of the skimmer. The intermediate tube is the 2-3/4" +/- diameter tube that separates the reaction chamber from the outflow channel.


The Basic Tasks of Modification
There are three basic tasks that can individually enhance a Seaclone's performance.
1) Replace the stock air flow adjustment end cap and replace with a air adjustment valve.


2) Reduce the inner most riser tube's length to approximately 2-1/2" to 3" in length.
This can be accomplished by pulling out the inner tube with a pair of needle nose pliers after you have gently rock the tube back and forth with your fingers. It should come loose without breaking. Take your time with this task because if you do break the inner tube you will have a very tough time clearing the base of broken acrylic. Unless you have very small hands that can fit in the skimmer.


3) Seal the base of the collection cup to the top of the intermediate tube. The simplest method I came up with is by cutting an O-ring out of a sheet of compressible non-porous foam. The best type of material is similar to the large foam O-rings you find from an old Magnum canister filter. This should give you an idea of what is needed. I trimmed the tip off a foam gasket that is normally used to seal a reservoir tank to a toilet.


The Purpose of Each Task
1) The air flow adjustment endcap that the Seaclone comes with is the item that frustrates many hobbyists. It is not meant to be used the way it needs to be and is obviously a cost saving measure by the manufacturer. Opened too wide the Maxi-Jet generates too much bubbles and inadequate flowrate. There is also a point where too much air will decrease the suction of the water pump hence reducing both the water flow rate and bubble generation to nearly zero. Don't open the cap enough and the water flow becomes too high and flushes the bubbles down to the outflow channel and into your display tank. Hence a good air adjustment valve is needed to control the bubble generation and water flow rate.


2) Reaction time is one of the main factors in protein skimming and the stock Seaclone has very little of this. The inner tube extends too high and is too narrow in diameter offering very little bubble and water mixing and contact time. Cutting this inner tube down in length effectively utililizes the volume of the intermediate tube as a reaction chamber. The intermediate tube has a much larger diameter hence cross sectional area and inversely the flow rate. The flow of water through the reaction chamber is greatly reduced, allowing for a greater contact time.


The Modified SeaClone in action:
http://reefcentral.com/images/seaskim.jpg



3) A portion of the air from the bubble generation does not exit the skimmer via the foam collection cup. Sealing the base of the cup to the top flange of the intermediate tube forces all the air to flow through the cup. This increased air flow helps push the foam up to be collected.


Another Modification Worth Considering
4) Reduce the height of the riser tube in the collection cup. The skimmate that the Seaclone generates is quite dark when compared to that produced by high-end skimmers. The main reason for this is the difference in height between the water column/foam interface and the top of the skimmate overflow tube in the collection cup. This distance is far too much for the foam to travel for this low power skimmer. The Maxi-Jet simply doesn't generate enough foam and air to blow the skimmate up such a tall dry column. I haven't figured out a way to cut this inner tube with minimal effort. The only solution is with the use of a hand held rotary tool (Dremel) but this may generate too much heat and bind the blade as the acrylic melts. The quality of the cut is also questionable since there is no guide available to make such a cut.


The Results
I have claimed this modification to be worthwhile based on a comparison of my current observation of the modified Seaclone's performance and that of the stock Seaclone from my recollection. I really don't have any prove that the modifications work. Fortunately (and many thanks to) Larry has acquired two Seaclone skimmers and is currently putting them to the test. He is running a modified and a stock Seaclone simultaneously on one of his reef tanks. His initial response has been good but the final verdict has yet to be given.
Clint Y.


Larry's notes: As you can see by the pictures, cutting off the inner tube and replacing the air valve has turned the SeaClone into an acceptable skimmer. IMO, it now works as well as my old BakPak. I have yet to try sealing the collection cup against the intermediate tube, but I have no doubt this will also increase it's performance.


My purpose in putting up this page is not to encourage people to go out and buy a SeaClone to use on a large tank. Rather, it is to help those of us who already have one, make it work better. I still feel this is a skimmer limited to usage on small tanks.
 
Yes, I did it about a year ago , major improvement. The valve is where most of the improvement came from but I would also cut down the inner tube.
 
air adjustment valve

air adjustment valve

where can you find the air adjustment valve you mentioned above?

thanks for this information.. very informative
 
I got mine at home depot,it was in with the flexable tubing like you would use for refrigerator water line, near the pvc.
 
Modifications Working

Modifications Working

Clinton,

Thanks for the article on SeaClone Modifications, I have a new reef tank and made the modifications after using the skimmer out of the box for about two weeks.

I could not remove the riser tube howeverI found that using a Dremel tool to cut both the riser tube and tube in the collection cup worked well. My wife's hand was small enough to fit inside. I did not have a problem with too much heat and binding the blade.

I just did this yesterday so have not seen any real results yet however, the activity in the of air seperating from the water is a lot better. Also, I agree by changing out the valve helps with adjustments. I am not getting any bubbles going back into the tank.

Larry
 
could someone provide an image of the changed air adjustment valve... I am still unclear of what it looks like
Thanks
Dano
 
I have done the above modifications except for the air adjustment but think it is a good one. I also replaced the stock maxi-jet impeller with a modified bio-ball and found that to make the biggest difference. The amount of foam and skimmate produced astounded me. For anyone trying the above modifications I would highly reccomend also doing the bio-ball mod found here .

It makes a world of difference
 
Larry-The bioball is cut in half and is put in place of the impeller in the pump housing. It will fit atop the cylindrical magnet that usually drives the impeller. This took some fiddling on my part with several different types of bioballs and lots of trimming with a dremel. However the end result was worth it.
 
Best seaclone mod out there.

Step 1.
Remove seaclone from tank and empty remaining water.
Step 2.
Place seaclone in curbside garbage recepticle.
Step 3.
Close lid and return to home.
Step 4.
Purchase a skimmer that works.
Step 5.
Paypal me 20$ for such wonderful advice!
 
Could someone come up with a better breakdown of this, I guess I'm just stupid and can't read his instructions very well......I tried getting that tube loose to no avail, I was afraid I would break it. any pic's on the process?
 
Even though I've been warned not to buy the seaclone, I couldnt resist buying a used one for cheap to put on my nano.

Question, how do you get to the 4" inner tube in the reaction chamber?

Cutting the riser tube in the collection cut seems pretty easy, but the one in the chamber looks like a pain in the a$$.
 
Inflames said:
Best seaclone mod out there.

Step 1.
Remove seaclone from tank and empty remaining water.
Step 2.
Place seaclone in curbside garbage recepticle.
Step 3.
Close lid and return to home.
Step 4.
Purchase a skimmer that works.
Step 5.
Paypal me 20$ for such wonderful advice!


you're just not talented enough to make it skim methinks :lol:
 
vanreefer said:
could someone provide an image of the changed air adjustment valve... I am still unclear of what it looks like
Thanks
Dano

Here's the valve I used
59639brassvalve.jpg
 
Here's the thing. The newer versions of the Sea Clone, you can't get the inner tubes off as they are glued on.

That said though, juts by cutting the riser tube down a bit and add a needle wheel impeller will improve your skimming a lot.
 
I saw in a thread awhile back, some dude put a neck from a 20oz. soda bottle inside the inner tube, extending into the collection neck. Very easy to do, and also made for a nice improvement.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=5989031#post5989031 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mikeeal
I saw in a thread awhile back, some dude put a neck from a 20oz. soda bottle inside the inner tube, extending into the collection neck. Very easy to do, and also made for a nice improvement.

OOH! OOH! I gotta try this one... I bought the seaclone because it was that or no skimmer at all on my budget. I gotta say that everyone was right and out of the box it didnt do much at all. A few weeks and not much to mention in the collection cup. I did the mods (Planned to before buying it) as follows:

Removed the inner riser tube, well.... I broke it off is what happened. Lucky for me I had a tube that fit nice and snug inside what was left of the original. In the end same mod but a slightly smaller I/D.

Ran a rigid tube with airstone all the way to the bottom. Drilled a small hole in the collection cup lid.

Changed the airvalve on the MaxiJet air intake. This didnt give me the great result others posted seeing. Still unstable amounts of air going in. I didnt get a great needle valve though so maybe with a better valve? What I ended up doing is digging out an old gang valve. I ran a bigger air pump to the gang valve and then hooked up the airstone to one output and the MaxiJet to the other. This allows me a bit of control over both the water flow and air going in. Much more consistent now.

After the mods were done I checked the skimmer after about four hours. I had almost a 1/2" of dark coffee colored skimmate! So after all is said and done with all parts cost considered I now have an acceptable skimmer for under $100 USD...... Before you ask how so cheap, If you print out PetsMarts own web price on items and take it with you to the store they will price match and you save the shipping.
 
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