Need LPS Help for new REEF & INVERTEBRATES Tank

[r0cksteady]

Hi All,

Ive just come from the thread in the "New To The Hobby" - http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=10900318#post10900318
and they recommended I come a seek advice here on the "LPS" coral side that im considering stocking.

Below ive listed the hardware and stocking options. Please feel free to comment on any other areas you may feel need improving but the main area I need assistance is for the "Wrasse" and their compatibility with others and each other. Thanks

Tank Details:

5ft (5ft x 2ft x 3ft) = 224 US Gallons (187 UK Gallons) or 850 Litres

100 Kg of Live Rock

60 Kg of Coral Sand Substrate

Lighting - SunSun 2 x 250W Metal Halide Reflector 20K + 2 x 54W T5HO + Moonlight 7 LED

Protein Skimmer - Undecided

Heater - 300 Watt Jager Eheim

Filter - Sump with pump.

Power Heads - 4 x Hydor Koralia


FISH

CLOWNFISH
1 x Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris)
1 x Black & White Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris var)

DAMSELFISH
1 x Blue Reef Chromis (Blue Reef Chromis) - non agressive

DRAGONETS (Add later after tank is established)
1 x Green Mandarinfish (Pterosynchiropus splendidus, Synchiropus splendidus)
1 x Spotted Mandarinfish (Synchiropus picturatus)

GOBIES, DARTFISH AND JAWFISH
1 x Green Clown Goby (Gobiodon atrangulatus)
1 x Neon Goby (Elacatinus oceanops)
1 x Purple Tilefish (Hoplolatilus purpureus) OR Black Cap Basslet (Gramma melacara)
1 x Yellow Watchman Goby (Cryptocentrus cinctus) - MUST BE PURCHASED WITH PISTOL SHRIMP ALREADY PAIRED

Blennies
1 x Jewelled Rockskipper \ Lawnmower Blenny (Salarias fasciatus)
1 x Midas Blenny (Ecsenius midas) OR 1 x Bicolor Blenny (Ecsenius bicolor)
1 x Tube Blenny (Acanthemblemaria)

CARDINALFISH
2 x Banggai Cardinalfish (Pterapogon kauderni)

TANGS AND SURGEONFISH
1 x Chevron Tang (Chevron Tang)
1 x Tomini Bristletooth Tang (Ctenochaetus tominiensis)

TRIGGERS
1 x Bluechin Triggerfish (Xanthichthys auromarginatus)

WRASSE
2 x Banded Possum Wrasse (Wetmorella sp)
1 x Exquisite Fairy Wrasse (Exquisite Fairy Wrasse)
2 x Filamented Flasher Wrasse (Filamented Flasher Wrasse)
1 x Five Bar Wrasse (Psuedochellinus mysterii)
1 x Yellowstreaked Fairy Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus luteovittatus)


INVERTERBRATES

EELS
1 x Filamented Sand Eel (Trichonotus setigerus)
1 x Hass's Garden Eel (Taenioconger hassi)

STAR FISH (Add later)
1 x Blue Starfish (Linckia laevigata)
1 x Orange Sea Star (Echinaster sp)

SHRIMP
1 x Pedersons Anemone Shrimp (Periclimenes pedersoni)
2 x Peppermint Shrimp (Lysmata wurdemanni)
1 x Spotted Anemone Shrimp
2 x Hinge-beak Shrimp (Rhynchocinetes spp)
2 x Blood Shrimp (Lysmata debelius)
4 x Indo-Pacific White-Striped Cleaner Shrimp (Lysmata amboinensis)
1 x Pistol Shrimp (Alpheus sp) - MUST BE PURCHASED WITH WATCHMAN GOBY ALREADY PAIRED

Crabs (MUST ADD EMPTY SHELLS FOR THEIR GROWTH)
4 x Purple Porcelain Crabs OR Porcelain Anemone Crab (Neopetrolisthes ohshimai)
1 x Emerald Crab (Mithrax sculptus)
1 x Dwarf Blue Leg Hermit Crab (Clibanarius tricolor)
1 x Left-handed Hermit Crab (Calcinus laevimanus)
4 x Red Reef Hermit Crab (Paguristes cadenati)
4 x Dwarf Zebra Hermit Crab (Coenobiata species)
4 x Scarlet Hermit Crab (Paguristes cadenati)

SCALLOPS & OYSTERS - (Add later after tank is established)
2 x Electric Flame Scallop (Lima sp)
2 x Flame Scallop (Lima scabra)
1 x Paguriste scadenati

SEA CUCUMBERS
1 x Sand Sifting Sea Cucumber (Sand Sifting Sea Cucumber)

SEA SLUGS & NUDIBRANCHS
1 x Lettuce Sea Slug (Tridachia crispata)

CLAMS (Add later after tank is established)
2 x Crocea Clam (Tridacna crocea)
1 x Maxima Clam (Tridacna maxima)
1 x Squamosa Clam (Tridacna squamosa)

SNAILS
5 x Bumble Bee Snail (Pusiostoma sp)
10 x Mexican Red Foot Snail (Norrisia norrisii)
20 x Nassarius Snails (Nassarius sp)
5 x Banded Trochus Snail (Trochus sp)
5 x Astraea Snail (Astraea tecta)
5 x Turbo Snail (Turbo sp)

CORALS

HARD CORALS
1 x Artichoke/Button Coral (Scolymia sp)
1 x Bird's Nest Coral (Seriatopora sp)
1 x Brain Coral (Trachyphyllia sp)
1 x Green Bubble Coral (Plerogyra sp)
1 x Candy Cane Coral (Caulastrea furcata)
1 x Cat's Paw/Club Finger Coral (Stylophora sp)
1 x Daisy/Flowerpot Coral (Alveopora sp)
1 X Elegance Coral (Cataphyllia sp)
1 x Lobophyllia Brain Coral (Lobophyllia sp.)
1 x Plate/Disk Coral (Fungia sp)

MUSHROOM CORALS
3 x Ricordea Mushroom Coral (Ricordea yuma) - Different colours

SOFT CORALS

1 x Acalycigorgia Sea Fan (Acalycigorgia sp)
1 x Clove/Glove Poly (Clavularia sp)
1 x Green Star Polyp (Pachyclavularia sp)

ANEMONES (Need to be 12" apart)
2 x Bubble Tip Anemone (Entacmaea quadricolor) - Different Colours

FAN WORMS \ FEATHER DUSTERS (ANNELIDS)
1 x Christmas Tree Worm (Spirobranchus sp)
1 x Cluster Duster (Bispira brunnea)
1 x Dwarf Colored Feather Duster (Bispira sp)
1 x Hard Tubeworm (Protula bispiralis)
1 x Feather Duster (Sabellastarte sp)

MACROALGAE
1 X Sea Grape (Botryocladia sp)

Thanks again for taking the time to read such a huge post.

 

[r0cksteady]

SORRY - Quick Ammend

SORRY - Quick Ammend

What I was supposed to say is Ive come a seek advice here on the the "LPS" coral side of thing im considering stocking.

 

[sunfish11]

That is a huge post! I will give you my 2 cents...

1. In my opinion you will need more live rock. I don't know exactly what 100 Kg is, but it isn't nearly enough for 224 US gallons.

2. Get at least 2 chromis. I don't think they will do well by themselves

3. Mandarins are very difficult fish. Wait a year.

4. You don't have to buy a watchman already paired if you can't find it. You can pair them yourself.

5. I am counting a lot of fish (24) + eels, think about reducing a little. Prioritize.

6. You will need a lot more hermit crabs. I have 100 blue legs in my 210 and 6 mithrax as well as probably 50 scarlets and other miscelaneous crabs. (some people hate crabs but get a ton of snails instead)

7. Consider skipping the eels. They are messy and will eat your fish. Eels are not invertibrates. Garden eels would probably not do well in the environment you are envisioning.

8. You have a lot of shrimp on your list but you are missing the most important one (IMO) which is the skunk cleaner shrimp. Your shrimp list just might eat eachother. I don't know? You wont see much of the Flame though.

9. Not enough snails on your list. You will need many more astreas, nassarius, and a few more turbos. I don't think you need Mexican red foot.

10. Skip the Green Star Polyp. It is pretty but can overtake your tank.

11. For ,macro algea I would rather you went with something else but if you can't get Cheatomorphia I guess you go with what you have.

12. Get 2 heaters so that you have a back-up.

That is all I can think of off the top of my head.

Good luck!

Lisa

 

[sunfish11]

Some thoughts on coral...

Looks ok to me. Add slowly. Most selected are pretty hardy. Indo Elegance has some issues, but I have an Aussie that is doing great. Watch out for the softies they can get everywhere. Sea Fan will prob die. Wild Yuma can be touchy but addicting.

Think about skipping the anenomes. Your clowns will most likely pair if you go with one black and one regular ocellaris clown. Clowns host in all kinds of stuff. Anenomes are fine you just need to wait to add them till your tank is established. They might crawl all over and sting your other coral at that time. Just be aware.

Most of the feather dusters you listed would prob be eaten up by some of those shrimp. Don't know for sure but I have seen my peppermints eat them before.

Crocea and Maxima clams are the most difficult and light loving. Crocea needs to be up in the rockwork. You can't give them too much light. Squamosa is easier. You will have to decide, but read up on them first.

Lisa

 

[msn711]

You will definitely want more hermit crabs and snails. Pass on the astreas; replace those with trochus. Astreas snails fall over and cannot right themselves. If you aren't constantly picking them back up, they die. To me, they have to be the most helpless/stupid animals people put in their tanks. Trochus snails will clean up just as well, if not better, and don't have that issue.

I've read that the flame scallops don't do well in captivity. Research these before buying.

I've never heard of shrimp eating each other, other than coral bandeds killing other shrimp (but I don't see that one on your list). I also don't think it's necessary to have one. So don't feel like you have to add shrimp x to your list. Get the ones you like. Blood red fire shrimp do hide a lot however.

Bubble tip anemones: just do your research and decide if it's worth the risk of one moving. IME, once settled into a good tank, they'll stay put.

 

[sunfish11]

Astreas snails fall over and cannot right themselves. If you aren't constantly picking them back up, they die. To me, they have to be the most helpless/stupid animals people put in their tanks. Trochus snails will clean up just as well, if not better, and don't have that issue.

Good point. They are a pain in the rear.

 

[r0cksteady]

Wow Thanks For The Great Info

Wow Thanks For The Great Info

THANKYOU THANKYOU THANYOU EVERYONE!

This is great, im also getting a lot of great messages from other n00bs who are taking great interest in what im compiling from your experiences so please continue to pick at my list where you see fit.

Ive now updated the list with everything you have said. Please review if you have the time. Many thanks again. I promise that I will contribute one day with my own knowledge and Ill be sure to share photos ect as I go along.

One thing to note is that as I live in Australia (Melbourne) most likely there are going to be things im not going to have access to due to import restrictions and what not. Basically im trying to piece together through everyones experience and knowledge what the best REEF, VERTEBRATE and FISH safe setup I can get then work it down on availability. Thanks again.


Tank Details:

5ft (5ft x 2ft x 3ft) = 224 US Gallons (187 UK Gallons) or 850 Litres

100 Kg of Live Rock

60 Kg of Coral Sand Substrate

Lighting - SunSun 2 x 250W Metal Halide Reflector 20K + 2 x 54W T5HO + Moonlight 7 LED

Protein Skimmer - Undecided

Heater - 2 x 300 Watt Jager Eheim

Filter - Sump with pump.

Power Heads - 4 x Hydor Koralia


PLEASE POST ANY SUGGESTIONS YOU FEEL VALID OR ANY TROUBLE YOU SEE I MAY EXPERIENCE.


FISH

CLOWNFISH
1 x Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris)
1 x Black & White Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris var)

DAMSELFISH
4 x Blue Reef Chromis (Blue Reef Chromis) - non agressive

DRAGONETS (Add later after tank is established)
1 x Green Mandarinfish (Pterosynchiropus splendidus, Synchiropus splendidus)
1 x Spotted Mandarinfish (Synchiropus picturatus)

GOBIES, DARTFISH AND JAWFISH
1 x Green Clown Goby (Gobiodon atrangulatus)
1 x Neon Goby (Elacatinus oceanops)
1 x Purple Tilefish (Hoplolatilus purpureus) OR Black Cap Basslet (Gramma melacara)
1 x Yellow Watchman Goby (Cryptocentrus cinctus) - CAN BE PURCHASED WITH PISTOL SHRIMP ALREADY PAIRED

Blennies
1 x Jewelled Rockskipper \ Lawnmower Blenny (Salarias fasciatus)
1 x Midas Blenny (Ecsenius midas) OR 1 x Bicolor Blenny (Ecsenius bicolor)
1 x Tube Blenny (Acanthemblemaria)

CARDINALFISH
2 x Banggai Cardinalfish (Pterapogon kauderni)

TANGS AND SURGEONFISH
1 x Chevron Tang (Chevron Tang)
1 x Tomini Bristletooth Tang (Ctenochaetus tominiensis)

TRIGGERS
1 x Bluechin Triggerfish (Xanthichthys auromarginatus)

WRASSE (ADD FIRST AFTER INVERTEBRATES)
2 x Banded Possum Wrasse (Wetmorella sp)
1 x Exquisite Fairy Wrasse (Exquisite Fairy Wrasse)
2 x Filamented Flasher Wrasse (Filamented Flasher Wrasse)
1 x Five Bar Wrasse (Psuedochellinus mysterii)

EELS - NEED HELP!
I would love to have 1 or 2 eels if possible though I am fully aware that they will eat my small fish and vertebrates as such Im not going to list an eel but it would be great if anyone who has had sucess or knows of a great placid or tiny eel could comment. Otherwise I will leave eels off the list *sigh*.


INVERTERBRATES

STAR FISH (Add later)
1 x Blue Starfish (Linckia laevigata)
1 x Orange Sea Star (Echinaster sp)

SHRIMP
1 x Pedersons Anemone Shrimp (Periclimenes pedersoni)
2 x Peppermint Shrimp (Lysmata wurdemanni)
1 x Spotted Anemone Shrimp
2 x Hinge-beak Shrimp (Rhynchocinetes spp)
2 x Blood Shrimp (Lysmata debelius)
20 x Indo-Pacific White-Striped Cleaner Shrimp (Lysmata amboinensis)
1 x Pistol Shrimp (Alpheus sp) - CAN BE PURCHASED WITH WATCHMAN GOBY ALREADY PAIRED

Crabs (MUST ADD EMPTY SHELLS FOR THEIR GROWTH)
10 x Purple Porcelain Crabs OR Porcelain Anemone Crab (Neopetrolisthes ohshimai)
1 x Emerald Crab (Mithrax sculptus)
30 x Dwarf Blue Leg Hermit Crab (Clibanarius tricolor)
1 x Left-handed Hermit Crab (Calcinus laevimanus)
4 x Red Reef Hermit Crab (Paguristes cadenati)
4 x Dwarf Zebra Hermit Crab (Coenobiata species)
4 x Scarlet Hermit Crab (Paguristes cadenati)

SCALLOPS & OYSTERS - (Add later after tank is established / Need more experience before attempting)
2 x Electric Flame Scallop (Lima sp)
2 x Flame Scallop (Lima scabra)
1 x Paguriste scadenati

SEA CUCUMBERS
1 x Sand Sifting Sea Cucumber (Sand Sifting Sea Cucumber)

SEA SLUGS & NUDIBRANCHS
1 x Lettuce Sea Slug (Tridachia crispata)

CLAMS (Add later after tank is established, Need to be up high near lights)
2 x Crocea Clam (Tridacna crocea)
1 x Maxima Clam (Tridacna maxima)
1 x Squamosa Clam (Tridacna squamosa)

SNAILS
10 x Bumble Bee Snail (Pusiostoma sp)
10 x Mexican Red Foot Snail (Norrisia norrisii)
20 x Nassarius Snails (Nassarius sp)
20 x Banded Trochus Snail (Trochus sp)
10 x Turbo Snail (Turbo sp)

CORALS

HARD CORALS
1 x Artichoke/Button Coral (Scolymia sp)
1 x Bird's Nest Coral (Seriatopora sp)
1 x Brain Coral (Trachyphyllia sp)
1 x Green Bubble Coral (Plerogyra sp)
1 x Candy Cane Coral (Caulastrea furcata)
1 x Cat's Paw/Club Finger Coral (Stylophora sp)
1 x Daisy/Flowerpot Coral (Alveopora sp)
1 X Elegance Coral (Cataphyllia sp)
1 x Lobophyllia Brain Coral (Lobophyllia sp.)
1 x Plate/Disk Coral (Fungia sp)

MUSHROOM CORALS
3 x Ricordea Mushroom Coral (Ricordea yuma) - Different colours

SOFT CORALS

1 x Acalycigorgia Sea Fan (Acalycigorgia sp)
1 x Clove/Glove Poly (Clavularia sp)

ANEMONES (Need to be 12" apart, Need more advice on best way to get the established so they dont wander)
2 x Bubble Tip Anemone (Entacmaea quadricolor) - Different Colours

FAN WORMS \ FEATHER DUSTERS (ANNELIDS)
1 x Christmas Tree Worm (Spirobranchus sp)
1 x Cluster Duster (Bispira brunnea)
1 x Dwarf Colored Feather Duster (Bispira sp)
1 x Hard Tubeworm (Protula bispiralis)
1 x Feather Duster (Sabellastarte sp)

MACROALGAE
1 Chaetomorpha Algae - Aquacultured (Chaetomorpha sp) OR 1 X Sea Grape (Botryocladia sp)

 

[Aquarist007]

Please pass on the hermits also---they are not a good combination with snails--sooner or later they will deplete your snail population

 

[r0cksteady]

Will this be the case if I left spare shells in the tank? Do I need to remove all the hermit crabs or just certain types?

If I really do have to choose between the two then which one is the best for "the tank" and if you could give me a basic understanding of why that would be good also.

 

[mikekman]

Nice stocklist for your tank.

NO TURBOS! They get too big and can knock frags down.
Get stomatella snails, they breed like crazy and will eat algae and stay small

I notice you have possum wrasse and mandarins, your tank will need a lot of fauna already to feed them as they eat a lot of copepods, etc.

Try this:

In a few corners of your tank get some small strawberry baskets and put a lot of rubble rock in it. This gives copepods a place to hideout and breed so that you have food for your wrasses and mandarins. Since you have a 224, find multiple areas you can do this. Or if you don't want green strawberry baskets in your tank, pile some rubble rock in corners, etc so that copepods can hide and breed there.

Do you have a refugium w/macro algae? If not get one started! Refugiums w/macro algae are a good safe haven for copepods and other fauna to breed. Once in a while you can take out the macro algae and shake it into your main tank letting fish eat the copepods and other critters or to just help out the main tank by adding more critters.

You have flame scallops on the list, if you want them, dose Live DTs, they are kind of hard to keep alive for a long period of time.

If you want a eel, maybe a banana eel? I forget the name but its yellow and only grows to like 12 inches. If you keep it well fed it might not eat your shrimp. Not sure though, do some research online.

Coral suggestions:

Acans -many aussie acans are extremely colorful and pretty

micros -same as above, come in so many pretty colors

echinos or chalices -very pretty too

neon green candy canes -you will like them, very nice

duncans -very pretty, you may need to target feed them at least 1-2 times a week. They are photosynthetic

dendrophyllia -do you mind having to feed corals? If not, then get some of these. You will have to feed at least 3 times a week. Very pretty

sun corals -will have to feed but very pretty

hammer coral and frogspawn -pretty corals.

maze brain -I've seen some really nice ones

favias -there are some really nice favias out there

fungias -if you can find a red, get it!

 

[sunfish11]

Also, hermits are a matter of taste and I happen to like a lot of them. If they have killed snails (I have never witnessed this) then it isn't enough of them to make a difference. They do a good job cleaning up. I have seen my shrimp eat snails though. Expecially the stomatella. Pistols may eat snails as well. Keep your critters well fed and they shoudn't eat each other too much.

Lisa

 

[msn711]

The hermits will attack the snails for their shells, even if there are empty ones laying around. So you'll end up with a few less snails. It's not really that big of a deal, IMO, and quite an overrated complaint. Hermits are opportunistic, and more likely to go after detritus than snails, but I think that's an equally important role. Some people find hermits annoying because of the reduced snail population; I just don't think it's that serious. Plus, hermits add some movement to the tank, especially in the early days when it's just rocks, water, and a clean up crew.

 

[danch]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10907522#post10907522 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sunfish11
That is a huge post! I will give you my 2 cents...

1. In my opinion you will need more live rock. I don't know exactly what 100 Kg is, but it isn't nearly enough for 224 US gallons.

100Kg is about 220 lbs. Enough for filtration, for a normal bioload, but that is a lot of fish...

 

[r0cksteady]

WOW ALL GREAT STUFF

How many fish should I reduce by then? Say I am happy to have a "snug" enviroment but without giving them discomfort and turning my tank into UFC for fish?

Too be honest I dont like snails full stop, I hate them for fresh water because they breed to the extent that you need fish that will eat them and even though they do a good job of cleaning the tank, so do any sucker fish.

So I think ill take everything everyone has said on board and just make sure I get a large ammount of snails and monitor the enviroment, I mean if I have to by more snails every month its no big deal with as they are probably the most cheapest aspect of the bunch.

I will research these corals you mentioned, unfortunately I seems that some of them such as "arcans" and "micros" are either a general term or slang as I am not having any luck identifying species for their latin names.

Heres the updated list, is there anywhere else I can improve

Tank Details:

5ft (5ft x 2ft x 3ft) = 224 US Gallons (187 UK Gallons) or 850 Litres

100 Kg (220 lbs) of Live Rock

60 Kg (133 lbs) of Coral Sand Substrate

Lighting - SunSun 2 x 250W Metal Halide Reflector 20K + 2 x 54W T5HO + Moonlight 7 LED

Protein Skimmer - Undecided

Heater - 2 x 300 Watt Jager Eheim

Filter - Sump with pump.

Power Heads - 4 x Hydor Koralia


PLEASE POST ANY SUGGESTIONS YOU FEEL VALID OR ANY TROUBLE YOU SEE I MAY EXPERIENCE.


FISH

CLOWNFISH
1 x Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris)
1 x Black & White Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris var)

DAMSELFISH
4 x Blue Reef Chromis (Blue Reef Chromis) - non agressive

DRAGONETS (Add later after tank is established)
2 x Male/Female Pair of Spotted Mandarinfish (Synchiropus picturatus) OR 2 x Male/Female Pair of Green Mandarinfish (Pterosynchiropus splendidus, Synchiropus splendidus) - Need lots of fauna ie. Copepods to eat.

GOBIES, DARTFISH AND JAWFISH
1 x Green Clown Goby (Gobiodon atrangulatus) - (Add later after tank is established)
1 x Neon Goby (Elacatinus oceanops)
1 x Black Cap Basslet (Gramma melacara)
1 x Yellow Watchman Goby (Cryptocentrus cinctus)

Blennies
1 x Jewelled Rockskipper \ Lawnmower Blenny (Salarias fasciatus)
1 x Midas Blenny (Ecsenius midas) OR 1 x Bicolor Blenny (Ecsenius bicolor)
1 x Tube Blenny (Acanthemblemaria)

CARDINALFISH
2 x Banggai Cardinalfish (Pterapogon kauderni)

TANGS AND SURGEONFISH
1 x Chevron Tang (Chevron Tang)
1 x Tomini Bristletooth Tang (Ctenochaetus tominiensis)

TRIGGERS
1 x Bluechin Triggerfish (Xanthichthys auromarginatus)

WRASSE (ADD FIRST AFTER INVERTEBRATES)
2 x Banded Possum Wrasse (Wetmorella sp) - Need lots of fauna ie. Copepods to eat.
1 x Exquisite Fairy Wrasse (Exquisite Fairy Wrasse)
2 x Filamented Flasher Wrasse (Filamented Flasher Wrasse)
1 x Five Bar Wrasse (Psuedochellinus mysterii)
1 x Yellow Wrasse (Halichoeres chrysus)

EELS - NEED HELP!
I would love to have an eel if possible though I am fully aware that they will eat my small fish and vertebrates as such Im not going to list an eel but it would be great if anyone who has had sucess or knows of a great placid or tiny eel could comment. Otherwise I will leave eels off the list *sigh*.

INVERTERBRATES

STAR FISH (Add later)
1 x Blue Starfish (Linckia laevigata)
1 x Orange Sea Star (Echinaster sp)

SHRIMP
1 x Pedersons Anemone Shrimp (Periclimenes pedersoni)
2 x Peppermint Shrimp (Lysmata wurdemanni)
1 x Spotted Anemone Shrimp
2 x Hinge-beak Shrimp (Rhynchocinetes spp)
2 x Blood Shrimp (Lysmata debelius)
4 x Indo-Pacific White-Striped Cleaner Shrimp (Lysmata amboinensis)
1 x Pistol Shrimp (Alpheus sp)

Crabs (MUST ADD EMPTY SHELLS FOR THEIR GROWTH)
10 x Purple Porcelain Crabs OR Porcelain Anemone Crab (Neopetrolisthes ohshimai)
1 x Emerald Crab (Mithrax sculptus)
30 x Dwarf Blue Leg Hermit Crab (Clibanarius tricolor)
1 x Left-handed Hermit Crab (Calcinus laevimanus)
4 x Red Reef Hermit Crab (Paguristes cadenati)
4 x Dwarf Zebra Hermit Crab (Coenobiata species)
4 x Scarlet Hermit Crab (Paguristes cadenati)

SCALLOPS & OYSTERS - (Add later after tank is established / Need more experience before attempting / Need to feed DTs Phytoplankton)
2 x Electric Flame Scallop (Lima sp)
2 x Flame Scallop (Lima scabra)
1 x Paguriste scadenati

SEA CUCUMBERS
1 x Sand Sifting Sea Cucumber (Sand Sifting Sea Cucumber)

SEA SLUGS & NUDIBRANCHS
1 x Lettuce Sea Slug (Tridachia crispata)

CLAMS (Add later after tank is established, Need to be up high near lights)
2 x Crocea Clam (Tridacna crocea)
1 x Maxima Clam (Tridacna maxima)
1 x Squamosa Clam (Tridacna squamosa)

SNAILS
10 x Bumble Bee Snail (Pusiostoma sp)
10 x Mexican Red Foot Snail (Norrisia norrisii)
20 x Nassarius Snails (Nassarius sp)
20 x Banded Trochus Snail (Trochus sp)
10 x Stomatella Limpet Snail (Margarites pupillus)

CORALS

HARD CORALS
1 x Artichoke/Button Coral (Scolymia sp)
1 x Bird's Nest Coral (Seriatopora sp)
1 x Brain Coral (Trachyphyllia sp)
1 x Green Bubble Coral (Plerogyra sp)
1 x Candy Cane Coral (Caulastrea furcata)
1 x Cat's Paw/Club Finger Coral (Stylophora sp)
1 x Daisy/Flowerpot Coral (Alveopora sp)
1 X Elegance Coral (Cataphyllia sp)
1 x Lobophyllia Brain Coral (Lobophyllia sp.)
1 x Plate/Disk Coral (Fungia sp)

MUSHROOM CORALS
3 x Ricordea Mushroom Coral (Ricordea yuma) - Different colours

SOFT CORALS

1 x Acalycigorgia Sea Fan (Acalycigorgia sp)
1 x Clove/Glove Poly (Clavularia sp)

ANEMONES (Need to be 12" apart, Prefer less air flow, Need more advice on best way to get the established so they dont wander)
2 x Bubble Tip Anemone (Entacmaea quadricolor) - Different Colours

FAN WORMS \ FEATHER DUSTERS (ANNELIDS)
1 x Christmas Tree Worm (Spirobranchus sp)
1 x Cluster Duster (Bispira brunnea)
1 x Dwarf Colored Feather Duster (Bispira sp)
1 x Hard Tubeworm (Protula bispiralis)
1 x Feather Duster (Sabellastarte sp)

MACROALGAE - Also put in sump with live sand as refugium to feed herbivores when low in fauna on main tank.
1 Chaetomorpha Algae - Aquacultured (Chaetomorpha sp) OR 1 X Sea Grape (Botryocladia sp)

 

[msn711]

"Acans" refers to acanthastrea sp. (particularly lordhowensis...I may have butchered that spelling).

"Micros" refers to micromussa sp.

Personally, I say go after the corals you are interested in and have researched, not the latest fads or what someone else likes and suggests.

 

[sunfish11]

100Kg is about 220 lbs. Enough for filtration, for a normal bioload, but that is a lot of fish...

It would be minimum for normal bio-load. with 24 fish you will want more than 1lb per gallon.

Lisa

 

[r0cksteady]

Thanks msn711 sorry you had to clarify but greatly appreciated.

How about 120 Kg (265 lbs) of Live Rock is this enough? Obviously I want to be well above the required amount than borderline when I'm dealing with such delicate creatures.

Ive just read about a heap of people who have had success in keeping the Ribbon Eels as they are the most placid and rather than getting larger they just get longer. Their mouth is only big enough to fit in tiny fish and tiny shrimp as opposed to what I would class as small (clowns etc)

Anyone know much about ribbon eels?

 

[Aquarist007]

carefull not to overemphasize live rock. Deep sand beds, and refugiums also really help in the filtration process.
I may have over 200lbs of rock in the water column but it is spread over the sump and refugium. This gives more swimming space in the main tank also.
Actually I am in the process of adding a mud/mango refug in the sump itself--before I even consider more live rock.

Here is a thread you might be interested in:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1219529

 

[r0cksteady]

Thank you for your reply, how much would you recommend in live rock for my tank then? How much of that would to put in the sump?

 

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10915030#post10915030 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by r0cksteady
Thank you for your reply, how much would you recommend in live rock for my tank then? How much of that would to put in the sump?

good question--I asked that very question in the thread that I posted above-----bottom line it depends on alot of other variables--deepsand beds, refugiums etc.
Suggest you follow that thread like I am to see if there is an answer that suits your needs.