NO3:PO4-x conversion to vinegar

Not necessary to dilute vinegar, since that is typically 5% ethanoic acid. Not 5% vinegar, since that would be 0.25% ethanoic acid, which would be far too dilute.

However since I'm using 99% ethanoic acid, it is of necessity to dilute.
 
NO3 stayed at 3mg/L for a week or two. Week later 6mg/L, week later 12mg/L, where it is today.
The week prior I had been dosing 65ml, which still wasn't sufficient to maintain or reduce the NO3 concentration from 6mg/L.
Perhaps I need to increase the dose more significantly on a regular basis, i.e. every day. At present the dosage is 75ml. I want to get it back under control asap, without risking a bacterial bloom.

What incremental increases would you suggest, and at what frequency?
 
Yep it is.
So I'll attempt 5ml a day increases. Will do a water test in 4 days to see if it's coming down too hastily, this needing slowing down, or still increasing.

Thanks.
 
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Yes with the Elos high resolution kit.

With no intervention it sits at 0.14 mg/L :( this has remained constant even when dosing the Nopox and having NO3 under control at 3ppm.

So the PO4 concentration hasn't really changed.

I'm having to use GFOish (Biophos 80) to reduce the PO4. I don't tend to take it too low, but it seems as though I need to change out the media weekly to keep it 0.03<0.06 (max) mg/L.

I have been changing fortnightly, however the common pattern of on a weekly testing being: 0.14 : 0.09- 0.1mg/L.

In the middle of the first week it goes so low as 0.03mg/L in the middle of the first week.


PO4 is something I suffer with!

I think by changing the media weekly rather than fortnightly, I will avoid the 0.1mg/L reading, meaning instead of the new media having to reduce the PO4 down from .1 or .14, it should hopefully be able to sustain it below .06 . I'll see if my crude hypothesis is correct in a couple of weeks.

I''ve also got a refugium of Chaeto and Caulerpa racemosa. It used to grow very well. But for the last quarter, production has been very poor. It looks like it might be picking up now, though I haven't had to harvest yet. So can't be certain.
 
Cheers :)

I did some tests today (spending my revision leave wisely ;) ).

NO3 ~12mg/L
PO4 ~ 0.06-0.07mg/L (indistinguishable).

Will test Saturday and see whether the PO4 and NO3 are continuing to drop.
 
Tagging along on this one because I'm looking for a recipe to cutover from RedSea NoPOX to Heinz Distilled White Vinegar :-)

Ny NoPOX dose is around 8ml/day into a 130g volume of water. Nitrates and phosphates seem to be well controlled at that dosage.

-droog
 
Last Saturday the nitrate was still 12mg/L, phosphate was 0.092mg/L. Replenished the gfo, so have to reactors on a sort of alternating exchange. So I'll put a cup full in one reactor, and the next week a cup full in the other, and exchange them so each media is used for 2 weeks.

Water tests tomorrow will see how it has been effected.

We are now dosing 140ml.
 
Hmm, based on this it doesn't sound like your vinegar dosing is controlling nitrate very well yet (you were at 3.5/4 with NoPOX before starting the cutover, correct?)

I wonder if its worth dosing a product like bio-spira or Aquarium Systems "Bio Degradeur" - essentially a bunch on de-nitryfing bacteria as I understand it. Perhaps you need to populate a different genus of bacteria to consume the newer carbon source. Of course they will populate eventually anyway, just an idea.

Im also curious how you are culturing copepods. Would like to do the same in my system to feed a mandy, as my tank doesn't yet seem to sustain a large enough population of them.

-droog
 
Just culturing in aquamedic reactors, feeding T. suecica.


Nope Randy, not changed anything else. Dosage is higher again now. About 160ml. I am tempted to run another NO3 test tomorrow when it is lighter, to see where I am at now.
 
It can take some time for the lNO3 to drop further but I'm pretty sure it will.
 
I'm aware of that, I'm dosing the equivalent of 180ml of 5%.

I will sustain this dosage I think until such time the NO3 gets to a desirable level. Altering as necessary. I may be able to reduce the dosage when at the desired concentration. :)
 
Seems high to me.
Keep an eye out for bacterial growth.

Watch the PO4 too ;if it goes to undetectable and NO3 does not come down the lack PO4 may be starting to limit the bacteria.
 
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