Old Tank Syndrome

kae

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Randy, are all informations in this article correct? Especially for this part...

The same processes that reduce ammonia to nitrite to nitrate also produce an abundance of hydrogen ions, which, if left to their own accord, acidify the water. In water from some sources that contain few "buffers" (ions that help stabilize pH by combining with excess hydrogen or hydroxyl ions), pH will tend to decline steadily just as the nitrate increases, and again regular pH testing may help alert the aquarist to impending trouble. However, in more heavily buffered water, an interesting but more threatening phenomenon occurs. As hydrogen ions are produced, they are immediately tied up by the buffer ion, and the pH remains roughly the same - until all the buffer ions are used up. At this point, the pH drops rapidly, and this sudden "pH crash" can be very damaging to fish.

If this process is allowed to continue (and a few, very hardy fish survive), another interesting biochemical phenomena occurs. At a pH of about 5.5 or less, the bacteria that usually convert ammonia to nitrite are inhibited, so ammonia levels begin to rise. Strangely, though, the low pH actually protects the remaining fish by keeping the ammonia in the non-toxic ammonia (molecular) form instead of the very toxic ammonium (ionic) form! It is not uncommon to see an old, neglected tank with a pH reading off the bottom of the chart, ammonia and nitrate off the top, and a couple of old-timer fish still swimming about.


Thank you very much.

:)
 
There is a kernel of truth there, and some comments that do not apply to reef tanks, and I'm not sure they truly apply anywhere.

No reef tank ever drops to pH 5.5. They may mean a fish only tank, but since we carefully maintain alkalinity, we (we meaning reef tank keepers) never have that depletion of the buffer, and we also have loads of calcium carbonate to prevent the pH from dropping like that anyway.
 
As hydrogen ions are produced, they are immediately tied up by the buffer ion, and the pH remains roughly the same - until all the buffer ions are used up. At this point, the pH drops rapidly...

Are all produced hydrogen ions tied up by buffer ions (no free H+) and there is no change in pH untill all the buffer ions are used up then pH start to drop, or pH will drop anyway even if H+ is tied up by buffer ions?

Thank you. :)
 
This is not exactly true, but adding H+ into a buffered solution will result in a smaller change in pH than adding the same amount of H+ into unbuffered water.

In a reef tank, adding H+ will convert some carbonate into bicarbonate:

H+ + CO3-- ---> HCO3-

That effect reduces the amount of H+ remaining in solution, and so has blunted the pH drop since pH is a measure of the remaining H+ in solution. It is not a hidden danger, just a fact of how the chemistry works out. :)
 
Do you mean that not 100% of added H+ are combined with CO3 but some are in solution and cause a drop in pH?
 
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