Onyx percs or photons

[ReefMonkey714]

Just got a pair I really like and was wondering if anyone can confirm whether they're onyx perculas or photon hybrids. Thanks very much

https://youtu.be/hk8aVMWKA8Y



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[ThRoewer]

My guess would be Photons based on the white outline the female has around her soft rayed fins.
Though what can be seen of the eyes could also point to a captive-bred percula. So it could also be an Onyx percula strain.

These are Black Photons:

So Photons may actually have solid orange eyes.

As what did you buy them and how knowledgeable is the seller?


Pictures are from this thread:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1544628&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

 

[ronalvio]

I have bought photons on accident.
Also lfs get confused with the difference

I have both photons and onyx percs
There are differences
Look also at the high dorsal on the photons
Percs have a lower dorsal
Also photons and onyx percs can share that orange eye so it's not the only criteria


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[ThRoewer]

I have bought photons on accident.
Also lfs get confused with the difference

I have both photons and onyx percs
There are differences
Look also at the high dorsal on the photons
Percs have a lower dorsal
Also photons and onyx percs can share that orange eye so it's not the only criteria


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Yes, as the pictures above demonstrate, orange eyes are not a reliable tell that these are not photons. Though a true percula never has black eyes.
The same goes for the white fin outline - its absence is not a definitive tell, its presence on the other hand is.

Such a large amount of black could point to Photons or captive-bred Onyx percula. With wild percula, it is rather rare.

All reason why I wouldn't touch any captive-bred percula or ocellaris with 10ft pole unless I know the breeder and the parents are wild-caught.

 

[CoralsAddiction]

Just got a pair I really like and was wondering if anyone can confirm whether they're onyx perculas or photon hybrids. Thanks very much

https://youtu.be/hk8aVMWKA8Y



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More likely the super darker strain of Onyx. At least the female is probably that with a small misbar marking. If the male came from the same parents it's likely Onyx too. There are onyx clowns with 100% Percula lineage that get dark in the face like that. While there's a possibility of them being photons, I don't believe that's the case.

 

[CoralsAddiction]

If you can post a slightly longer video, we'll probably be able to ID them more accurately.

 

[CoralsAddiction]

captive-bred Onyx percula.

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That's what I think they are.

 

[ThRoewer]

If you can post a slightly longer video, we'll probably be able to ID them more accurately.

Yes, and flip the phone - vertical videos are not only annoying but also fairly useless on a computer.

 

[ReefMonkey714]

Yes, and flip the phone - vertical videos are not only annoying but also fairly useless on a computer.

Will do. I'll post some more videos later on.
I got them from a guy that had bought an entire setup and sold what he didn't want. He said they were onyx clowns from what the previous owner said but didnt know much more.

I have some other captive bred onyx as well that look similar but I'm not sure. I'll share some videos today.




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[greekspec]

just throwing this out there Wild Caught misbars I know they come from SeaDwelling

https://yourfishstore.com/products/misbar-percula-clownfish-wild-med

 

[ronalvio]

Do you have the pic of it


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[ReefMonkey714]

https://youtu.be/hZXvcaNVHWY

https://youtu.be/AxfMCga3QPs

https://youtu.be/7a0LPCaw3Po



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[CoralsAddiction]

Those are tank raised Onyx clowns.
Some are just really dark without having any Ocellaris in them.
I had one that was extremely black even on the tail and pectoral fins, and some black markings on the chin.
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[ReefMonkey714]

Those are tank raised Onyx clowns.

Some are just really dark without having any Ocellaris in them.

I had one that was extremely black even on the tail and pectoral fins, and some black markings on the chin.

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Nice! I have one similar paired up with a wild caught perc.
https://youtu.be/fWui0HXQyuY


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[ReefMonkey714]

Actually I have a couple pairs lol [emoji38] onyx percs are my favorite clownfish.


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[ronalvio]

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[ronalvio]

New onyx clown....


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