Ordered Powder Brown

[t5Nitro]

Hello,

I ordered a powder brown tang just now. Do you know if that will be delivered late tomorrow then or Tuesday? How long can they sit outside? I am guessing a while since they are in heat packs but it will be best to know what day it should arrive.

Also, I should put my yellow tang in the tank at the same time as him correct? Catch the yellow tang and acclimate them at the same time? That will be good that way, then I can maybe put that one anthias in the 46 gallon.

 

[dfs/la2]

t5Nitro,

We are happy the Powder Brown Tang was available for you to order. We know you have been waiting awhile for that fish. The order should ship Monday for Tuesday delivery. We will email tracking information when the order ships. They are packed with enough oxygen to last about 48 hours. As it has been warm in most areas heat packs may not be included. In areas with higher temperatures cooling packs would be used. We do suggest someone being available to bring them in from outside due to possible temperature fluctuations. This is not required but may help reduce possible stress.

If more than one Tang is entered into an aquarium they should be entered together to try to minimize aggression. However, it is not guaranteed that they will be compatible even if entered together. We hope this information helps.

Gwen S.
LiveAquaria
Drs. Foster and Smith

 

[t5Nitro]

Alright, curious as to know what you would do for putting 2 tangs together? The powder brown shows 3-4" and my yellow tang is maybe 2 and 3/4" or maybe 3". I know that the powder brown is more peaceful, but once established it will be the dominant of the two, so would it be best to try both at once or the powder brown first and a few days later the yellow since it wouldn't be established yet?

Thanks.

 

[dfs/la2]

t5Nitro,

When adding more than one Tang into an aquarium they should be placed into the aquarium together to try to minimize aggression. However, it is not guaranteed that they will be compatible even if entered to the aquarium at the same time.

Joyce F.
LiveAquaria
Drs. Foster & Smith

 

[t5Nitro]

Just curious, I have been asking the other forum and haven't seemed to like some of the ideas on how to catch a yellow tang. So I figure, why not ask the people that do it everyday? Or any kind of tangs in general. How would you go about catching a yellow tang? I want to get the one out of my old tank to transfer to the new tank with the powder brown. To catch him, I thought of a milk jug with the top cut off so he could go in and put an algae sheet in it and then take a net and keep the top of the jug closed. That may work, but my yellow tang is a little more skiddish than that, he probably won't come out if a milk jug is in the tank. Do you guys just use nets? The largest net I have is probably a bit longer than the yellow tang but close to the same height that he is, and then when you net them their fins are going to go up yet. I do not have a fish trap, but the milk jug thing is probably about the same.

Thanks.

 

[dfs/la2]

t5Nitro,

We would recommend using the AquaMedic Fish Trap or the Fish Corral for this application.

AquaMedic Fish Trap

Fish Corral


This will keep the fish safe and is less stressful for the fish.

Joyce F.
Drs. Foster & Smith
LiveAquaria

 

[t5Nitro]

Got my powder brown in today and the colors are amazing! One thing though, he doesn't eat. Fed formula 1 pellets, formula 2 flakes, brine shrimp soaked in garlic, and an algae clip.

He does occasionally take 1 bite off of the LR but not many bites.

Does it sometimes take these fish a few days to eat?

How much do you recommend feeding 2 tangs, 2 clowns, and 3 anthias from the frozen brine/mysis cubes? 1/2 of the cube plus another feeding during the day?

 

[dfs/la2]

t5Nitro,

This is very normal for the Powder Brown Tang to respond this way after shipment. It can take a few days for the Tang to completely acclimate and begin to eat the food offered. We recommend that feedings include only ½ a cube of the frozen foods you are offering at this time along with dried seaweed on a veggie clip, Sea Veggies, Seaweed Salad and Ocean Nutrition. These foods should be fed at least 3 times per week.

Any food left uneaten in the aquarium should be removed after 3 minutes. The uneaten seaweed in the veggie clip should be removed from the clip after 24 hours and cleaned. This will help to reduce the amount of waste in the aquarium.

Joyce F.
LiveAquaria
Drs. Foster & Smith

 

[t5Nitro]

Well, he hasn't ate any of the frozen or prepared foods yet, but he did start a small bit on the algae clip.

 

[DFS/LA1]

t5Nitro,

It is very encouraging to hear that your tang is nibbling on the algae you are providing. Tangs enjoy algae most of all! He is progressing well and may still take another day or two to begin consuming the other foods. You may also wish to soak foods in a vitamin rich supplement such as Selcon or an appetite enhancer such as Garlic Xtreme to maximize the nutritional benefits of the foods your specimens and new tang eat. These products will also enhance the immune system of your tang, always a good idea after the stress of shipping and adjusting to a new aquarium. Thank you for keeping us posted. We are happy to assist you through this acclamation time in any way we can.

Donna Z.
Supervisors
LiveAquaria
Drs. Foster & Smith

 

[t5Nitro]

Oh, I am definately soaking the food in garlic xtreme, the algae too. The yellow tang bothers him though somewhat. I called the 1-800 number twice on 2 things. The first thing was when I first got him he repeatedly swam right into the wall, turned around, and did it again. He quit that it seems. The next thing was his stomache. I thought it was just like that today since he hasn't ate the frozen or dry foods since Tuesday, but I looked at pictures from the 24th and he must have arrived with a little shrunk stomache. You can see a dent here in this picture:

It doesn't seem that bad, but I think it maybe shrunk more since 2 days ago. I was told the yellow tang may be causing him not to eat, but I target fed the powder brown and he just kind of swims away from it. No doubt, this fish is not skiddish at all. Out of all the stores, your fish are never skiddish. My yellow tang is still skiddish after 5 or 6 months, this powder brown you can be right up to the glass and he will be there too right at the glass, so he isn't afraid of the target feeding of the tube being right near him for the food, he just doesn't take it, but like you said it may take a few days. That is why I don't think it is the yellow tang though since even with target feeding he didn't eat it.

Seems like it is getting better, but I put 2 mirrors up, the yellow tang doesn't seem to flare as much, and if he does, maybe not slap as much.

6:32, just watched and both tangs swam out together, yellow tangs fins are down and not flared up and just ignores him. Good sign, but most of the time it seems like he follows the powder around nonstop. Only 3 days now so maybe it isn't enough time yet.

I did try catching the yellow tang, but like I said, it is so skiddish you would never get him. The powder brown I could probably hand catch lol.

Overall, I am happy about this order, not trying to get on the wrong foot here, he is amazing. Just was conserned about the yellow tang and the eating thing. Here are some more pictures:

Yellow Tang:

Yellow Tang with your 2 of 3 of your bartletts in back:

Full Tank Shot:

 

[dfs/la2]

T5nitro.

Thank you for posting the pictures. Both Tangs appear to be healthy and in good shape at this time. Stress can be a major factor affecting the eating habits of the Powder Brown Tang, especially if it is being bothered by the Yellow Tang in your aquarium. To help reduce aggression, we suggest using plastic eggcrate grating to keep the Tangs separated until you can ensure that the Powder Brown is eating. Please keep us informed as to the progress of both Tangs.

Mike S.
LiveAquaria
Drs. Foster and Smith

 

[t5Nitro]

Thanks, way ahead of ya! I cut a piece of eggcrate to fit the tank, the yellow tang has been seperated for a while now and wow, you should see how much easier the powder brown is swimming and more gentle acting. He was always real nice and gentle, not skiddish, but if the yellow tang can near, kind of like tale gatting him and then slaps him. So now, the powder brown has about 5 feet of swim space with 3 anthias.

If he doesn't settle in a week I think I will trade him in for a different type of tang. What type of tang do you suggest in a 125? I don't really want the chevron, kole, or flamefin.

Also, I want a magnificent foxface. Do you know if you have any in stock and they are just in the QT stage at your facility or know when you will be getting them? I signed up for the email alert already, but any idea how long until you get them?

The powder brown still eats the algae clip. Hopefully he starts eating the frozen/dry foods tomorrow since he is alone with 3 small fish now.
Thanks.

 

[t5Nitro]

New photos: These are from before, the yellow tang is still in the full tank without the eggcrate.

 

[dfs/la2]

T5Nitro,

Thank you for the additional pictures. As far as what we see in your photos, the Powder Brown Tang seems to be adjusting well to your aquarium, and should be an excellent long-term inhabitant. At this time, we would not recommend adding another tang to your aquarium.

According to our stock information, we are unsure as to specifically when the Magnificent Foxface will be available. Signing up for the “E-mail Me” option was an excellent idea, as this will let you know when this fish becomes available.

Mike S.
LiveAquaria
Drs. Foster and Smith

 

[t5Nitro]

Ok, thanks. Not anymore tangs to make 3 tangs or not anymore tangs after the yellow is taken out? Otherwise ya, the magnificent foxface would make a great addition to the aquarium for some more amazing color.

Look at the third picture down, under his fin there, not the shadow, left of the shadow, that is his stomache kind of shrunk in I think, do they all look like that or is that just not eating for a while? Only been a few days, at least he is starting slowly on the algae clip. I have been feeding the green algae sheets. Do you if one of the other colors do the powder browns take better to?

What do you feed your powder browns at the facility? I tried formula 1 pellets, formula 2 flakes, zoo plankton, brine shrimp soaked in garlic, and the algae clip. For what is noticeable is that he only eats some algae clip unless he gets some food from behind the rock where you don't notice it. I do have some mysis shrimp that I could open up and soak that in garlic. I have only been trying the brine.

 

[dfs/la2]

t5Nitro,

You may be able to keep three or four tangs in an aquarium your size. However we recommend they be introduced at the same time, as tangs are very territorial fish and aggression may become a problem.

As this is a new fish that has just been through the stress of shipping and acclimation to its new home, it is possible for its stomach to appear a bit pinched or sunken. From your photos your tang’s stomach appears to be doing fine. As the fish begins consuming more foods, the stomach will appear more rounded.

The tangs that are housed at our Aquaculture Coral & Marine Life Facility consume frozen mysid and brine shrimp along with Marine A pellets and green seaweed/algae. You are correct; tangs do prefer the green algae over other colors of algae.

We hope you find this information beneficial!


Jessica H.
LiveAquaria
Drs. Foster & Smith

 

[t5Nitro]

Well, day 2 with the eggcrate. The powder brown tang seems to pick more off the glass and algae clip by far, and much more peaceful slower swimming instead of a race in and out of the rocks because of a 'tail gating' yellow tang. He seems to do a lot better, he always looked really good, just the eating seems to have picked up more yet.

Hopefully he will begin to eat the frozen today now that the yellow tang is separated.

Do you know if there is any certain season you get magnificent foxfaces in most? I would like to order one, but I would rather get one from Live Aquaria.

Thanks!

 

[dfs/la2]

t5Nitro,

We are happy to hear your Tang seems to be eating more!

There is no specific season for collecting the Magnificent FoxFace. At this time we are currently out of stock and do not have a specific expected date as to when we will receive more in stock.

However, our Aquaculture Coral & Marine Life Facility is in the process of trying to obtain this fish. You may wish to sign up for the Divers Den Email Alert so you are aware of new additions to the Divers Den section.


Jessica H.
LiveAquaria
Drs. Foster & Smith

 

[t5Nitro]

It is day 6 and the powder brown doesn't eat anything but the algae clip. Can tangs live off of an algae clip? I tried to target feed him, but he seems to be afraid of food, or he just swims right by it.

The algae he will go for though.