Pink Lemonade, Pink Floyd, OJ Simpson

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i believe some one said that there must be more than just the original pics taken of these corals. I know I have dozens of pics of my favorite corals. maybe if we could see a time line and witness the morphing...that would be cool.

Miguel- don't worry bro I was actually just kidding about the reef farmers comment. this is a related issue but completely separate from the whole LE thing. for what it's worth I commend you on your honest depiction of corals posted on your site.
 
it's in my gallery. some are unlcear but you can very well see what is goin on.

picard, you're a sad sad man. i implore you to get help. i'm done w/ this thread, but i will return just to show people what you really are picard.
 
Please do, i always love to see what the imagination can fabricate, i see the pictures, look like a sad frag tank, can we get a shot of the whole tank?
I love that unplugged chiller as well, nice touch :D
 
I have personally bought stuff from Mike before and been to his house to pick it up. The stuff i bought (non indo lords) looked just like the pictures on frags. org. I did see, not sure which, either the Pink lemonade or O.J. in his tank and it looked just like the pictures on his site. He does have a bulldog puppy that I played with and his tank is in his garage. We have been having record heat here in the L.A. area and I know for a fact a tank in the garage won't last long without a chiller. Mike was a stand up guy and we talked for about two hours. I will definately buy from him again. It's too bad there are so many people on here looking to bad mouth everyone. I have met noyhing but nice people in the 2 plus years i've been reefing. (Jen at Jendub.com, Mike, Eric at fragfarmer, Chris at reefermadness, Ron at reeftecdesigns). Tanks are crashing out here like crazy right now. Look at Hugo (sniper sps) People are giving him a hard time saying he deserved that for not having a generator on hand. This is supposed to be a fun hobby. Let's try to keep it that way.
When you get your stuff going again Mike let me know and you can have some frags.
 
Where are the mods on this thread? Too much name calling and not enough calling out for people to post proof photos.

Peace,

Chip
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7828763#post7828763 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by marillion
Where are the mods on this thread? Too much name calling and not enough calling out for people to post proof photos.

Peace,

Chip
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My thoughts exactly. I'm shocked they have let it go on. What is this hobby/industry coming to:rolleyes:
 
I think this thread has been quite educational and eye opening. A little childish in some parts, but it brings out a potentially serious and widespread issue between buyers and sellers; not to mention the need for more attention to be paid to the overall health of corals and not just what is pretty at the moment or how much money can be made from them. Think of how many corals die each year, or even each day, because some fish store employee tells the customer that it is a "beginner" coral and "easy" to keep. And now, people are purposely (or ignorantly) changing or altering the coloration of corals to an unnatural state, which can potentially end up stressing the coral, then creating a catchy name for it and charging 5 or 10 times what it's worth. What the buyer ends up with is a stressed coral that will unexpectedly change to a different "color morph" as soon as it begins to regain its healthy coloration again.

You could probably write an article for RC magazine on this subject ;) .
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7828268#post7828268 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by microbubbles
if nothing else, i know i can vidicate mike with the lies you weave. even if i get banned, i'm going to post all of the emails of yours/mike's on this board
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you are aware, of course, that posting emails (or anything, for that matter) that personally attack other users, such as calling someone O-ring, whether you originally wrote them or not, is amazingly against the rc user policy?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7828415#post7828415 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by microbubbles
it's in my gallery. some are unlcear but you can very well see what is goin on.
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you're right, I for one can very well see what's going on. I see someone trying to pass off a small frag tank, with a few dead acans, as a tank that held several many year old micromussa colonies, someone that must not have a lot of respect for the intelligence of everyone that's looked at those pictures.
 
Woa, I'll make this short and to the point. I visited Michael sometime last year and bought a few polyps of the pink lemonade, pink floyd and other micros from him. They looked exactly like the photo's on reeffarmers. There was no photoshop involved at all. Michael is an honest guy who does not scam people. My frags that I got from Michael have also morphed into another color. Is that his fault? No way. He had no way of knowing what color it would change to. You guys are amazing. You guys will believe a guy who just registered on RC over a few veterans? I dare you to try and discredit me. I am no liar and I have proof to back this up. Michael is no liar as well. I saw all of his colonies 1st hand. In fact, I was the 1st person to buy his pink lemonade and other micros even before Tyree got them on his site.
 
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Maximus :) as I told MicroBubbles I respect your ability to defend a friend in darkness... It shows character :) Kudos

None of us doubt you or the fact that the micros WERE that color when they first came into the country... When those corals first arrived I am 100% sure that they WERE that color, I believe that YOU and others saw them that way. That fact is clear... they were treated to obtain those colors and initially Micheal was also probably taken in by the scam.... where the question comes in and where we would all like to have seen pictures was NOW after we all know that the morphs do not have that coloration.


PROBLEM and ISSUE:
Micheal Bae continues to list them on frags .org and sell them to unsuspecting reefers... AS pink, yellow and orange morphs which they absolutely are NOT.


I paid Michael $630.00 for the three morphs shown on Frags.org and if you read this full post I already stated that the very day they arrived they looked nothing like he advertised.. NO NOT they lost thier color or other changes in my tank... They NEVER looked that way. I thought that he sent me the wrong box... I even asked him that. So when Michael shipped them he knew that they were not nor ever would again be that color... That is MY issue.
The corals were not the advertised color when they arrived... nor were they that color in Michaels tank the day he shipped.


OH and Maximus.. These are very pretty corals I really would love to see some pics of your colonies of these to see if they are similar to mine :) I have not yet gotten to see the other colonies of anyones. Actually post pics of any of your micro colonies... I bet you have some very nice ones.
 
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I know at times this has gotten testy, but I feel it has been very constructive over all. I am just now getting into acans and micro's, and this has been invaluable.

I'm sorry all of you had to pay the price for my education though.
 
Those are some sorry pictures. THere is one picture that I am able to see dead mussid coralites. Other than that 1 pic, I cant make out anything but a chiller at 94. I cant say beyond doubt that it is or isnt the remains of the micros in question. One thing I can say for certain is that camera is horrible. You would think (as a rational thinking human being) that after selling a multitude of expensive corals for $125+ each head that M.B. would purchase a camera that would enable him to take accurate clear pictures of his prize acans and micro.
Everything regarding this topic is shady and very cloak and dagger. Its always wait and Ill show you everything and then the "evidence" is blurry images of a junked frag tank- by no means indisputable. I just cant fathom not taking tons of pictures that document the growth and sale of prize acans especially when it would be in the owners interest. I hope that everyone makes their own decision and realizes the truth from the correspondance with whom ever it is this group has been talking to. Professionals dont funtion and action the way that MB has.
 
Maximus, I completely trust your point of view, as I know that your credibility is beyond question, and I fully respect your posting in this thread of the facts. However, I see where the issue lies, in being the first to buy those micros, you undoubtedly got them as soon as Michael did, at which point they were indeed that color. I'm very much willing to bet though, that as they changed in your tank, they also changed in his, which is very much what has happened. I do not doubt that you saw fully colored colonies, but I do doubt that they were fully colored any longer than yours were, and advertising them as such after the fact is where the misrepresentation came in. Also, you have to admit that those are the most intelligence insulting pictures you've ever seen...
 
If Maximus says he saw the colonies as they appear in the pictures, I've got to believe him. What I think the major problem here is that the grower is growing them under very unusual conditions inorder to get the color out of them. Conditions that very few would be willing to go to..ie...almost pure VHO Actinic.... I don't know if I can say that it's misleading, but it's something that the buyer really needs to think about befor buying a coral.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7831527#post7831527 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by organism
Also, you have to admit that those are the most intelligence insulting pictures you've ever seen...
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thought I'd clarify, I meant the tank crash pics, not the original micro pics. Maximus, did you see the original colonies at all after yours changed color, or just when they first came in?
 
I'd personally like to see "UPDATED" photos of these colonies also. I've been following this thread since it started. Personally, I almost shelled out some major jack to get some of these micros w/ wild color morphs. If he is a honest vendor he shouldn't have a problem showing some of the updated photos of these colonies as they are now. If the colors have changed, he should update with the new ones.
 
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