Plumbing for Dummies (Like me...)

heyfredyourhat

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Can someone explain to me, or refer me to a link, or draw a simple plumbing design. I am slightly confused. With a drilled tank ( i am planning on getting here shortly)..plumb it to a skimmer then to a sump...or however it goes????


Thanks
 
Well I dont know of how much help I can be. I recently put up a post and got quite a bit of help, so I will try and pass it on. First off what equipment do you have? Sump, Refugium, Skimmer, Calc Reactor, Chiller, etc. etc.

Here is how mine is going to be. I have an overflow box in each corner of my 125gallon tank. Each overflow has an inlet and outlet. One outlet will overflow into my fuge which will in turn overflow into my sump. The other overflow will go directly to my skimmer pump to get as much contact with the surface water as possible. You will then need a return pump from your sump back to your tank whether you will go to a closed loop or directly into the tank.

I also have a chiller and a calc reactor, so I have a pump that feeds the chiller from my sump that will directly overflow into my tank. Off of that line I have a tee which lets just enough water into my calc reactor which drips into the main tank. Heres a little diagram that I made. It is the older version before I went to this plumbing design but it might give you a bit of an idea of how it all works.

Hope this helps!

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ya that sorta sheds some light on it. Now i hear a lot about closed loop?? What exactly is that? I am still pretty green on this topic.

I plan on running just a sump and a skimmer down below my 120 tank. does it matter where in line the skimmer should be?
 
A closed loop depends on which setup you want to go with. If you goto melevsreef.com he shows how to setup a closed loop for a tank with the drilled back. Otherwise you will take the pvc piping over the top of the tank and run a pvc loop around the rim. Depending on pipe size you put a certain amount of Tee's which will each act like a powerhead. Benefits include a lot better, more even flow throught the tank. No need for powerheads to take away visual appeal, and instead of multiple powerheads you are only running 1 pump. This pump can either be hooked up to the overflows or more holes can be drilled in the tank for a outlet to the pump.

As far as your sump setup goes, what type of skimmer do you have? In sump or external. Also how is your sump setup? Is it just 1 tank with no baffles to section off different parts of the tank for the inlet, refugium, outlet, etc. A little more info on the sump setup would give me something better to go off of.

HTH
 
I've spent a lot of $$ figuring out plumbing... I was on a first name basis with the guy at HD!

A closed loop means you drain water from your tank directly to a pump and then return it to the tank directly via several outlets, hence, closed loop (the water never leaves the pipes). This distributes flow and eliminates power heads in the tank. So instead of X number of power heads, you have one larger pump servicing intank water circulation.

My CL is for mid to lower tank flow, my returns do upper tank flow. I do not feel a manifold (pipe around the top) accomplishes this.

This is my first reef tank, so take it for that, but here is a pic of my recently completed and approved plumbing: The small diameter spa flex tubes are my returns, they run from the sump up and over each back corner. They are split, in sump, by a SCWD (alternating flow device) and end up at the front corners pointing down and towards the back.

The 3 pipes in the middle are my closed loop. The center one is the drain and the 2 pipes flanking the drain are the closed loop returns, which then split in the tank to 3/4" loclince for a total of 4 outlets.

The right hand pipe is the overflow drain which dumps into the sump - skimmer/fuge/return.

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Several key learnings:

1) Use as large a pipe as you can for anything going to or coming from a pump. Larger pipe = more water moved = more flow! Flow is your friend.

2) Realize you are going to make plumbing mistakes (like forgetting to put the female union threaded piece onto the pipe BEFORE gluing the pieces together!!! I did this twice...) Dry fit everything first. Get a sanity check, then commit. Also, buy at least 2 of each fitting when you get your plumbing, you can always return what you do not use...

3) There is more than one way to skin the cat!

Reef on!!

T
 
Liquid Hobby, so let me see....You only have one pump pushing water back up into tank then? So how do you run your closed loop setup?


hmmmm.....i think i will check melevsreef
thanks
 
okay i just read about an SCWD...so can you plumb in more than 0ne of those contraptions?? Or will the pump have to be enormous???
 
Okay i see what you are talking about i think...??

you have a closed loop just to keep flow flowing, and then a pump to do the returning and skimmer stuff..???is that close...
 
Yah thats right. Don't forget to use lots of unions, being able to take the plumbing apart is a must!!
 
Yep I agree with most of what has been said. Lots of unions. Also if you can get away with it don't glue it. There's only a few fittings like the drain line to the sump that you can get away with this. It's nice to be able tinker to solve flow/bubble/noise problems without cutting. www.melevsreef.com is a great site for figuring out what you want for a sump/fuge. Lot's of different configurations.
 
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