The trick is to only use them for pushing water. Dont try to run them externally, as they make a lot of noise. They dont use gears, only magnets is the reason. I have a mag 7 and my Coralife SS 65 skimmer makes more noise. Mine is for a 37g. tank w/ 10g. sump, and I still have to use a heater, although its just 150w.