Red Sea Max Owners Club

[dxtr]

Arreola - you may want to consider running your pump external. Pretty much any pump you put in the tank will cause an increase in the temperature due to on 34 gallons of volume.
You may be able to run some flex pipe or tubing to and from the pump and place the pump in the stand. Just a thought as finding a pump that generates little heat will prove to be difficult if not impossible.

 

[DontXtripNfall]

Just showing off one of my favorite pics, finally got a photobucket!

 

[Arreola]

dxtr - An external pump will generate heat as well?
If not, it will probably can be a possible solution, Just need to see if I can do that without major modifications to the tank.

Reefmack - No need to apologize about the country conffusion .

So here are so far the results on the temperature.
I ran the RSM all morning without the pump, and the temperature did not change.
I turned the pump 4 hours and the temperature rise 4° (From 75 to 79). strange thing that I turned off the pump and the temperature has not change in the past 7 hours, the lights had been off for about 2 hours now, and the temperature has not droped a single degree.

I really like the water movement, and I guess that at the end I will get a chiller, Just need to know, what pump to use with a 1/10 Chiller.

Besides a chiller would help me in case I want to upgrade the lamps in the future. Bad thing I can't afford one at this time. :mad2:

 

[NaCl+H2O Fish]

Couldn't Agree with DXTR more...

Couldn't Agree with DXTR more...

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12992925#post12992925 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dxtr
Arreola - you may want to consider running your pump external. Pretty much any pump you put in the tank will cause an increase in the temperature due to on 34 gallons of volume.
You may be able to run some flex pipe or tubing to and from the pump and place the pump in the stand. Just a thought as finding a pump that generates little heat will prove to be difficult if not impossible.

Arreola - WELCOME, WELCOME, WELCOME! WOW.... We now have RSM members from Australia, Singapore, Denmark, Israel, England, Canada and the US.... I believe you are our first from Mexico!
DXTR is so correct! Keep in mind that any "submerged" pump that consumes electricity generates HEAT into your RSM's water! Believe me I know living in S.E. Florida..... As Brent and Donna suggested, evaporative cooling is a great option for keeping the water temp down! Living in Mexico City you have an advantage over me because of your higher altitude and lower humidity air. Hollywood, FL. can, and usually is very humid! I have also pulled the LONG white pins in back of the RSM's hood and removed the skimmer access cover permanently and then replaced the pins to expose more water to open air. I also flip up the front feeding lid to do the same...... I loose about 2.5 liters of water a day and maintain ~ 82F. without a chiller. Love to have it down around 78F....... Except for the RSM Skimmer pump (??? 9watts) and the Koralia Nano 1 (3.5watts).... I would love to get all my other pumps OUTSIDE THE TANK and plumb their output back into the tank somehow! An auxiliary fan blowing across the water is another great idea. Welcome and good luck!

Update on "PraziPro" and a F.Y.I.
First of all, I believe in the idea behind this product: eliminate flukes, tapeworms, flat worms and any other FISH weakening parasites from your valuable fish.
Second, Adding it to your RSM may be a problem depending on some of your critters. Brent and Reefmack's concerns seem to be VERY correct!

This was the reply I received about problems with good stuff in our tanks.... CoCo Worms, Feather Dusters...etc.
Kent -We appreciate you taking the time to contact us and your support of our products. I have attached a product data sheet for your review which will have complete information on PraziPro. The short answer is that it can impact any type of creature that is part of the worm family. If after reviewing the information you have additional questions, please feel free to contact us again.

I lost 1 of 3 Feather Dusters.... Hmmmm?

Here is the data sheet that was attached: PraziPro Data

I believe the best way to take advantage of "PraziPro" is to use it in a QT tank or a NEW FISH's bag water while transporting and during acclimation! THROW OUT THE TREATED WATER!!! It's not disaster... just prudent!
Kent a.k.a. NaCl+H2O Fish

 

[martinphillip03]

You may not need the pump when you add the korolia 2, I think your flow is enough. If not people change out one of their pumps in the back filter with a, (someone please tell me), maybe the return can be plumbed into your piping system. Also people put a ( again I don"t know, please help) on the returns and it diverts the flow so its more random.
Reefmack and company please help

Marty

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12995678#post12995678 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Arreola
dxtr - An external pump will generate heat as well?
If not, it will probably can be a possible solution, Just need to see if I can do that without major modifications to the tank.

Reefmack - No need to apologize about the country conffusion .

So here are so far the results on the temperature.
I ran the RSM all morning without the pump, and the temperature did not change.
I turned the pump 4 hours and the temperature rise 4° (From 75 to 79). strange thing that I turned off the pump and the temperature has not change in the past 7 hours, the lights had been off for about 2 hours now, and the temperature has not droped a single degree.

I really like the water movement, and I guess that at the end I will get a chiller, Just need to know, what pump to use with a 1/10 Chiller.

Besides a chiller would help me in case I want to upgrade the lamps in the future. Bad thing I can't afford one at this time. :mad2:

 

[Arreola]

martinphillip03 - The only thing I'm worried about, is that even if a change one of the stock pumps to supply the piping, I still have the heat problem, that is if I can get a smaller and powerful enough to make it work / Fit in the compartment.

Thank you all for the incredible support and the patience to help a newbie.

 

[Brent F]

The timer stopped working on my RSM. I emailed Pinky to find out what to do for warranty claims.

This is the first problem I've had with mine

 

[Reefmack]

DontXtripNfall Congrats on Photobucket. I'll have to get back home to be able to see the pic you posted

Arreola - It will probably take a lot longer for the tank to cool down than it did for the pump to heat it up. Water in our tanks is pretty good at retaining heat. I'm guessing that's why you didn't see the tank cooling down quickly after shutting the pump off.

martinphillip03 I think your "fill in the blanks" test was for the MJ1200 pump, and the Hydor Flo circulating flow adapter.

Brent F - bummer on the timer. I hope you get a replacement with no problems.

NaCl+H2O Fish - Are you running any fresh carbon in your cannister? That might help get the PraziPro out of the tank water quicker.

 

[Arreola]

Reefmack - You are right. The temperature on the tank took all night to cool down.
Another strange thing. I ran the pump from midnight to 9:30am and the temperature still at 79°
I wil try to find a small computer fan and place it somewhere in the back, but, should the fan blow towards the water or the other way arround?

 

[Brent F]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12998029#post12998029 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Arreola
Reefmack - You are right. The temperature on the tank took all night to cool down.
Another strange thing. I ran the pump from midnight to 9:30am and the temperature still at 79°
I wil try to find a small computer fan and place it somewhere in the back, but, should the fan blow towards the water or the other way arround?

A mix of the two works best. One fan draws air into the hood and another exhausts air from the hood. This setup gets dry air moving across the water to cause evaporation.

 

[Reefmack]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12998029#post12998029 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Arreola
Reefmack - You are right. The temperature on the tank took all night to cool down.
Another strange thing. I ran the pump from midnight to 9:30am and the temperature still at 79°
I wil try to find a small computer fan and place it somewhere in the back, but, should the fan blow towards the water or the other way arround?

As Brent said, two fans in opposite directions would be great, but I think if you only have one fan, have it blow across the water to get the most evaporative cooling.

Strange that having the pump on overnight didn't cause the temperature rise. Any idea how cool the tank would get overnight without the pump going? It may be that the pump going overnight with no lights on provided enough heat to make up for the lights being off? I'm only guessing.

 

[Mister Chips]

Tunze 9002 Install Photos?

Tunze 9002 Install Photos?

I have been reading this thread for weeks and just about caught up on it. GREAT JOB!!

I have not run across any photos of a Tunze 9002 installed. Does amyone have a couple I can look at. I am tired of the micro-bubbles and high water temps. So decided to take the plunge.


Thanks

 

[Reef-Ski]

Mister Chips:

Here are a few, The second is from my (Old ) setup.

 

[Mister Chips]

Wow that was fast. Thanks!

Is it pretty much an easy install? Did you use magnets?

 

[Reef-Ski]

I have the old setup with the bracket design, it was a very simple install by just hanging the skimmer on the glass chamber where the heater goes. I guess the magnets are easy but you have to mount the skimmer a different way. Not sure but someone here will be able to help you for sure with more details.

You might want to look into a media rack for the first chamber. "StevieTdrill" sells them. I had made my own and it worked wonders when compared to the stock setup.

 

[Mister Chips]

Very cool! Does he have a website set up or something? How much does he sell it for?

 

[Reefmack]

Mister Chips - WELCOME to the RSM Club! Lots of great folks here to help with questions on the tank (thanks RSMreefer!). StevieT checks in here frequently and may PM you with his email address to get more info. on his mods for the tank & Tunze skimmer. How long have you had your RSM? Any pictures?

 

[Mister Chips]

I have been set up for about 2 weeks now. No photos yet but soon. So far I love the tank but pulling my hair out with skimmer issues. The temp has been around 81-83 and microbubbles everywhere. But if I turn the skimmer off for the day I get 78-79 and nice clear water.

Thanks for the warm welcome. :bum:

 

[StevieTdrill]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12998813#post12998813 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mister Chips
Very cool! Does he have a website set up or something? How much does he sell it for?

You have PM Mister Chips!

 

[Reefmack]

Mister Chips - the skimmer is a problem for a lot of owners, but not all. Hard to explain why, but is has to be some small detail in manufacture that makes one work well, and another not. And that is a pretty big pump on the skimmer and it can add some heat. I replaced the RSM hood with a raised hood, just to allow me to run a different skimmer. I run a Remora that works great, but it's not an option with the stock RSM hood on. Good luck with the Tunze - most people really like it.