Refurb - How many coats of Kilz

[ucdcrew]

How many coats of primer should I use? Painting people say 1 coat, but they're not RC.....lol.

FWIW - stand was osb with plywood skin. It had some water damage - so I pulled apart all the osb and built it a new frame with 2x4s. I'm painting the stand to match my kitchen cabinets - so it will be white. I was planning on putting the Kilz primer on the inside of the stand too so its white and protected in there - I have a nice high gloss exterior paint for the outside.

 

[Sacohen]

How many coats of primer should I use? Painting people say 1 coat, but they're not RC.....lol.



FWIW - stand was osb with plywood skin. It had some water damage - so I pulled apart all the osb and built it a new frame with 2x4s. I'm painting the stand to match my kitchen cabinets - so it will be white. I was planning on putting the Kilz primer on the inside of the stand too so its white and protected in there - I have a nice high gloss exterior paint for the outside.

I did 3 coats of Primer followed by 3 coats of Polyurethane sealer.


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[MAMGM]

Latex Kilz-2 coats, solvent base Kilz-1 coat would be enough

 

[ucdcrew]

Thanks guys. So far I have 1.5 coats. I tried to do it with the kilz spray paint, but ran out and got it everywhere so I switched to roller/can. I'll probably do just 1 coat on the inside as long as its covered, and 2-3 on the outside so the paint will look nice. So far, I'm proud of myself as I have not cut off my fingers with my miter saw.

The cabinet guys from the construction of my house (completed in August) left a bunch of random things like cabinet hardware - so I'm gonna use some of that to make it look awesome. They're not done building in my area yet, so I'm gonna go see if they have any extra moulding because it would look really neat if it matched.

 

[sfdan]

If the purpose of priming the surface is to get a nice smooth surface for another paint, then you should do as many coats as necessary to get a smooth, consistent surface for your paint. That will vary based on the material, how you apply it, how much you sand it, etc.

If you are priming it to protect the wood, then I'd certainly do at least a couple coats to make sure you have full coverage. Though you'd be much better off with one coat of kilz and then a single coat of either gloss latex paint, polyurethane, polycrylic, spar urethane, enamel paint or another topcoat along those lines. Kilz is not designed to be a topcoat. Kilz is absolutely better than nothing, but if you are going to go to the effort to paint the whole thing there are better choices for that final coat.

Personally for the inside of my stand, and the inside of my canopy, and any areas where I want a protective white surface, I do 3 coats of Kilz and then 3 coats of gloss water-based polyurethane. It's overkill, but for both finishes I can do 3 coats in a day so it isn't too onerous. However if I could deal with the smell of oil paints I'd do 1 coat of Kilz and then 1-2 coats of white enamel paint, as it would be less effort for the same protection, but the odors are just too much for me.

 

[mcgyvr]

In general 1 coat of primer then 2 coats of any normal latex paint is plenty..

I typically do like 2 coats of regular latex paint and call it a day.. Never had a problem..

Most people go way overboard just because they don't know any better..

 

[BigDave]

The object of the primer is to seal the wood, provide better adhesion for the paint, and to fill any minor (emphasis on minor) imperfections.

To that extent, I prime, then sand, then prime, then sand... as many times as it takes until after sanding, the surface is the quality I am looking for. The first coat, maybe two, is typically sanded until it's pretty much completely gone. This is the filling step, where I'm really only trying to fill minor imperfections in the wood.

With that said, I typically do a good job of finishing the wood prior, so I end up with 2 coats of primer. Then I'll do two coats of paint.

I would caution about 'just' doing the primer on the inside. I would recommend giving it a good coat of paint on the inside too.

 

[StinkerTinker]

You could just buy marine paint with primer built in, and probably get it done in two or three coats.

 

[davocean]

In general 1 coat of primer then 2 coats of any normal latex paint is plenty..

I typically do like 2 coats of regular latex paint and call it a day.. Never had a problem..

Most people go way overboard just because they don't know any better..

This, not only does it not do much, but actually too many coats risk not completely curing properly and could even compromise overall finish, I've seen paints look crackled from too many coats.

 

[ucdcrew]

For the paint - is it a better idea to assemble it and then paint it or paint it then assemble? Sorry for the dumb questions, its my first try.

 

[mcgyvr]

For the paint - is it a better idea to assemble it and then paint it or paint it then assemble? Sorry for the dumb questions, its my first try.

Really doesn't matter much.. In general painting first will ensure that all surfaces have some paint on them but when you do it after you basically seal up the whole thing anyways..

I always just paint after.. Only thing I paint first is molding/trim then fill/touchup the nail holes..

 

[davocean]

Unpainted joins better as wood glue can really penetrate and bond better.

 

[ucdcrew]

Update - I'm waiting for things to dry...glue, paint. Ignore the mess in my garage...I just moved, and yes I dragged a kitchen table in there. LOL.