Softie Fragging 101

Zoanthid fragging!

Zoanthid fragging!

An easy coral to grow, zoanthids are very colorful and hardy, making them very attractive to new reef tank owners. The color patterns are almost endless, and some have fetched quite a penny. Some of us, me included, can’t afford to get these primo frags in bulk, so we have to buy small patches of 1-5 polyps (most I’ve ever paid for them was $5 a polyp, but I’ve seen some a lot higher than that!). If you know how to frag these, you can not only get them spread out in your tank quickly, but you can also recoup some of the $$ you spent acquiring them in the first place by selling off some. They can come in handy at frag swaps as well.

Here’s some green skirt, orange body, bright orange-mouthed zoas I got in a trade. There’s two rocks full of them, and I wanted to start breaking them up (I also bought some baby-blue zoas a few days ago; they cost me $5 a polyp, and there are 5 polyps. Not something I do very often but I just couldn’t pass these babies up, as I knew they wouldn’t last very long).

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Ok, first things first: Fragging zoas can release palytoxin. I would make sure you have eye protection, i.e. goggles (glasses don't count), and gloves. When you cut or squeeze zoas, they can squirt out at you. Be careful!

Next, let’s take our rock out of the tank and examine it very closely. You want to break the rock where you will disturb the zoas the least. Sometimes, the zoas are growing separately, not attached by anything; in that case just break the rock in half. If they are attached to each other, you will want to cut the rock between the zoas where they are attached by membrane. There’s no need to cut through a polyp, because as soon as you take it out of the water the polyps will begin to close showing you their base, giving you plenty of areas to cut through without damaging a polyp. Pick the spot that will make the most of what you want to do; you can cut the rock into several pieces with many polyps on each, or break them up into individual polyps if you want.

Take your trusty diagonal cutter and break the rock at the point you’ve chosen. When you are breaking the rock, you’re also cutting the membrane of the zoas. In this picture, I'm cutting the rock between two polyps.

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If you have zoas that are held together loosely by membrane and a few pieces of rock rubble, you can use a pair of scissors to cut them apart.

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If you just want to separate a rock into more rocks, you’re done after this step. If you want to spread them out in your tank, you can take these small pieces and place them in different holes and crevices in the rocks.

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If there are no holes to stick them in, you’ll have to attach them in the tank with epoxy. More on that later.
 
Part 2

Part 2

If you want to glue these zoas to different rocks to make many frags, then you’ll need some glue. The type I use is Loctite Super Glue Gel.

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The gel is thick, and it allows you some time to get the zoa positioned just right. I only use the super glue when I’m working outside of the tank with frags; I’ll explain the method I use for in-tank gluing in a bit.

Now that you’ve broken your zoas up, it’s time to glue them to your new rock. First, cut the rock the zoas are on down to the smallest size possible. This is so you won’t have a top heavy rock that’s always falling over, and it looks better when they grow out. Dab the base rock and zoa rock off with a towel. Then, apply a liberal amount of glue to the base rock. Make sure the base rock will sit on its own without toppling over.

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Now, put a small amount of glue on the bottom of the zoa rock. Be careful not to get any glue on the zoas; it won’t hurt, but it keeps them closed for a while until the glue falls off. Gloves here will prevent gluing your finger to the rock!

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Next, carefully put the zoa rock on the base rock and push the glued rocks together.

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Next, I like to give myself some insurance and apply a small amount of glue all along the two rocks so I’m assured to have a good bond.

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Now, let that sit for a few minutes. The glue will harden where it is exposed to air first, and gradually dry all the way through. When you can’t move the zoa rock anymore, place the newly fragged zoas in the tank. Done!

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Hope this helps, and if you have any questions feel free to ask!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11986419#post11986419 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by BeesGoneWild
This is an excellent thread, I like the idea of using fishing line and a needle. Im a rubber band man myself but i think ill try this method this week. Two thumbs up :)

Thanks, let us know how it works out!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11986525#post11986525 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rickofco
great thread I have some mushrooms that i think i will frag.

thanks for the info.

No problem, glad to help! Let us know how your fragging goes!
 
Gluing with epoxy

Gluing with epoxy

I explained earlier that I use epoxy when I have to attach frags to the rocks inside my tank. The type of epoxy I use is Loctite 5-Minute Epoxy. I am not an advocate of Loctite products, but they do seem to make everything I need for fragging.:D

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This epoxy is very easy to use. You simply cut off the amount you want to use with a knife or with a pair of scissors, remove the plastic film, then knead the epoxy in your hands until the outer material â€"œ in this case, blue â€"œ and the inner material â€"œ white â€"œ are thoroughly mixed, forming an even colored ball. Let it set for about 30 seconds to 1 minute; it will get a bit hot. Note: this stuff will get on your fingers, and it's very hard to get off. Using gloves will keep that from happening.:rolleyes:

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Next, place your frag rock in the epoxy. You are trying to get the epoxy into the small pores in the rock. I wrap a bit of the epoxy around the top of the rock as well, so that it will hold the frag in place. Note: I used a rock with no frags on it here, because once you place your rock in the epoxy, you want to get it in the tank and in place as soon as possible, because it will cool rather quickly. I wasn't able to do that and take the picture at the same time, but you get the idea.

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Now it’s time to place our frag and the epoxy in the spot we’ve chosen. You want to select a spot that is porous, has a lot of craters or anything that will make the epoxy seep into the rock so it will not come loose after it dries. Flat, smooth surfaces don’t work too well. If you are trying to attach the epoxy somewhere that is relatively smooth, take another rock or something and scratch or score the area up, so as to make a better surface for the epoxy to hold on to.

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The epoxy will harden up, and eventually will get coralline algae on it, and pretty soon you won’t be able to tell it from the original rock.

Hope this helps, and if you have any questions feel free to ask!
 
Had to post a few of these baby blue zoas I got. These aren't the best of pics, but they're still nice.

With flash:
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Without flash:
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this thread is soooooo cool. im learning alot from just watching what you have done and cant wait to get back home and try some stuff on my tanks
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12123225#post12123225 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by aceheart1976
this thread is soooooo cool. im learning alot from just watching what you have done and cant wait to get back home and try some stuff on my tanks

Thanks! Let us know how your fragging works out!
 
actually, i got some loose shrooms from the lfs and got them all on rocks now a few has already attached themselves :)
crazy people at the lfs sold me a neon green ric thinking it was a shroom...... for $1 LOL
 
for zoas you can also scrape the top layer of rock from under the zoas and attatch that to another rock.. that way you dont have to break your rock and make it smaller./
 
Hey mike used ur thread here is their new home

Hey mike used ur thread here is their new home

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What was this last one again?
thanks,
jason
 
Re: Hey mike used ur thread here is their new home

Re: Hey mike used ur thread here is their new home

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12179270#post12179270 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jason214
What was this last one again?
thanks,
jason

Cool deal! The last one is a type of toadstool leather, not sure of the exact name.
 
This is such a great thread! I got a piece of live rock when I started my tank that had a couple small colonies of zoas. I am excited to spread them around the tank and try and recoup some of my cost!
 
just fragged for the first time! cut single polyps from diff colored zoa's to get them all on the same rock. Did it last night and the polyps i cut are opening already. U gave me the confidence mike, thanks.

jason
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12190564#post12190564 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by cjscott
This is such a great thread! I got a piece of live rock when I started my tank that had a couple small colonies of zoas. I am excited to spread them around the tank and try and recoup some of my cost!

Cool, glad I could help! Let us know how your fragging works out!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12215320#post12215320 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jason214
just fragged for the first time! cut single polyps from diff colored zoa's to get them all on the same rock. Did it last night and the polyps i cut are opening already. U gave me the confidence mike, thanks.

jason

Glad I could help! Did you frag some of those reds you got from me? How's all the frags doing?
 
hey mike,
Frags are doing great, the green sin. is attached and growing, The line is still in the toadstool, its hard to see if it is attached and i'm weary on taking it off prematurly. I'm not messen w/ those red zoa's, i like them and i don't want to mess them up. The shroom is stubborn, it looks good and attached, then i find it on the sand later, i've heard shrooms do that sometimes so.... I split a shroom that i already had a few of and its looking good, still don't know about risking it w/ a ric though. You still have them star polyps. My girlfriend liked them but was stubborn on saying something. You can pm me about it, i might have something you could be intrested in. Any way,
keep on reefen

jason
 
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