Starting up a 135 gallon FOWLR tank. Need advise
- Thread starter sean A.
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sean - I think that your list is fine, as long as you get them at their juv stages. I practically have the same types of fish (lunar wrasse, picasso trigger, juv. koran, scopas and whitecheek tang, and a baby lionfish) in my tank except that I don't have a butterfly fish. I got them as a juv and they are around 2"-3" at the moment. I consider my tank a temp because I know that once these guys start to mature, they will get big. (250+gal in the works). You also have to know that the more you feed, the faster they grow, so feed accordingly. Not everyday but every 3 days is should be fine.
Tangs are mainly herbivores so food like Formula two cubes would help them in their diet.
Juv. and Adult angels are omnivores but as they mature they require sponge and tunicates in their diet since this what they mostly eat in the wild, so get food that has these. Mega marine angel cubes is what I feed.
Triggers and wrasses are carnivores, so mysis, krill, squid, are great food for these guys. Actually, these guys eat anything you throw in the tank...well at least mine do. =)
Well, that's what I can offer so far but your in good hands here. Everyone here is very helpful and have a wealth of knowledge, sometimes better than what you can get in books. Good luck and keep asking those questions. Post some pics of your progress.
Tangs are mainly herbivores so food like Formula two cubes would help them in their diet.
Juv. and Adult angels are omnivores but as they mature they require sponge and tunicates in their diet since this what they mostly eat in the wild, so get food that has these. Mega marine angel cubes is what I feed.
Triggers and wrasses are carnivores, so mysis, krill, squid, are great food for these guys. Actually, these guys eat anything you throw in the tank...well at least mine do. =)
Well, that's what I can offer so far but your in good hands here. Everyone here is very helpful and have a wealth of knowledge, sometimes better than what you can get in books. Good luck and keep asking those questions. Post some pics of your progress.
MatthewLaw
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i agree you should be okay for awhile. any idea how much LR you will get? I would say at least 100-150lbs (approx 1lb/1g). also definitely get a powerful Protein skimmer.
unleashed13
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he was 4 inches when I got him i had him for 2 yrs.. what I have learned about aggressive fish is that for the first yr or so they grow rapidly.. I would think this is so they wouldn't be easy prey for long after that first yr they tend to slow down.. I'll use the lion as an example a 2 inch vol will grow to 12 inches in his first yr.. my shark grew to be 24 inches in one year..asuming the koran angel reaches 1ft 3 inches and the dogface puffer reaches 1ft 1 in.. Im using liveaqauria's measurements here... chances are the dog face will reach close to his fullest size within the first 2 yrs.. being he is an aggressive species..however angels and tangs grow at a slower rate it may take 5-6 yrs for a tank or angel to reach 10 inches.. it just makes more sense to me to get med sized not extra small fish they aren't very hardy to begin with but they growth rate tends to be slower
MatthewLaw
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interesting. thanks for the info.
anbosu
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The size of the fish isn't always the most important aspect of whether a tank size is appropriate or not. Some smaller tangs require larger tanks than fish two and three times their size. Puffers, generally speaking, don't need as much space relative to their size as angels and tangs. If you have a full grown S&S or stellatus or one of the other ginormous species then you definitely need a 180+ tank, but you could house a dogface for a very long time in a 135. Matthew, yours is in what right now, a 60 gallon? I think you are a lot more likely to have issues with an angel in a smaller tank vs. a dogface.
MatthewLaw
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Correct my juvi dogface is in a 60g. he's only about 5 inches and since the tank is in hypo for ich, he has almost every inch of room to swim. when he gets larger i will upgrade to a larger tank.
i dont think any of us are disagreeing that most of those fish will be fine in a 135g for a significant period of time. but if someone only wants/allowed to have one tank and isn't a fan of upgrading, then get the largest tank possible for the desired stocking list.
i dont think any of us are disagreeing that most of those fish will be fine in a 135g for a significant period of time. but if someone only wants/allowed to have one tank and isn't a fan of upgrading, then get the largest tank possible for the desired stocking list.
sean A.
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Well i am looking at having atleast around 100 pounds of live rock. I found a skimmer that is rated for a 200 gallon tank that i am looking at purchasing. I basically looked on liveaquaria.com for the basic fish size when adult and the minimum tank size required to house the fish. I pasifically chose these fesh because I would like to have some color in my tank. I've had fresh water for some time now & they just got to be a lil dull to look at.
unleashed13
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I have an octopus on one tank and a CPR back pack on my other both work very well.. we added the skimmer back on for the corals
MatthewLaw
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I have an Aqua C Remora Pro and use it as a HOB Skimmer in my sump. BUT i do not think it will be powerful enough in your 135.
i have read good reports on the Octopus skimmers.
i have read good reports on the Octopus skimmers.
I have an Aqua C Remora HOB Skimmer also and it works really well. But I agree with Matthew, they only go up to 120 gal.
I, too have read and heard a lot of positive things about the Reef Octopus Skimmers. Google Reef Octopus HB 300 Dual
Hang on Back Protein Skimmer, its recommend up to 150 gal. for around $160. This should be fine for your tank and bioload.
Here is a link where I found it but its on back order:
http://www.aquacave.com/reef-octopus-hb-300-dual-br-hang-on-back-protein-br-skimmer-1012.html
I, too have read and heard a lot of positive things about the Reef Octopus Skimmers. Google Reef Octopus HB 300 Dual
Hang on Back Protein Skimmer, its recommend up to 150 gal. for around $160. This should be fine for your tank and bioload.
Here is a link where I found it but its on back order:
http://www.aquacave.com/reef-octopus-hb-300-dual-br-hang-on-back-protein-br-skimmer-1012.html
