Sure Electronics LED Driver for Budget DIY LED Builds

zachts

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Ok, I've seen some rather brief discusion of these back several years and a few people here and there who have used these drivers with decent success.

I stumbled onto them a couple years ago while ordering speaker parts for my other hobby :)
from Parts Express. I've been following the meanwell LDD thread since it started and as far as I can tell these are the cheaper equivelent and possibly a little more DIY friendly on the budget builds or just for moonlighting etc. or for those who just want to order a one driver fit's all part (one additional part, a 0.33ohm resistor, requried here, but more on that latter)

I'm wondering why people don't use more of these in the DIY areana? do people not realize they exist yet? just like the LDDs that just were "found" recently in the Reef LED arena.

I bought a couple when I first found them to play with and have found them to be exceptionally versatile and most importantly very, very, cheap, especially if you can handle a little soldering to modify the Rsens resistor and there by set the current of the cheap 0.5 watt driver to any thing you want up to 1 amp!

Pros:
1. REALLY Cheap!
2. current modifieable by simply adding or swaping resistors to yeild your desired output current.
3. convienient screw terminals
4. small form factor (1" x 1.75" x .25" roughly without terminals, .5" with terminals attached)
5. very efficient, just like the meanwell LDD (over 95% possible) they can drive a single LED from a 36 volt plus powersupply and not get too teribly hot.
6. no heatsinking or needing to exactly match powersupply input voltage to output voltage. (still 70% efficient only running 1 led from a 36v source!)
7. pwm dimming, compatable with Arduino or mannual Ebay type LED dimmers
8. operates at 100% without pwm imput so dimming is optional
9. can link two boards together using built in header solder points to get up to 1.5amps! (maybe more with as of yet unexplored additional modified components)
10. so far redily available from a non-wholsale U.S.A based source (parts-express) probably others as well.
11. easy to calculate desired resistor to get the current you want. (0.1/desired mA output = resistor value) result is slightly dependant on output/input voltage relation ship but are close.
12. screw terminals come unattached incase you don't need them.
13. they appear fairley solidly build, good clean looking boards and solder pads/traces.

Cons:
1. some assembly required (you must solder on the screw terminals if you want to use them)
2. only a reall bargin if you plan to resolder Rsens resistors and can get the 1206 surface mount resistors cheap enough to justify not just buying a meanwell LDD.
3. open frame boards so they are not water resistant and need to be appropriatly located in a suitable enclosure somewhere.
4. 36 volt MAX imput voltage.

Link to the .5 watt boards I've used:
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=073-046
 
that is for 0.5W version, they have up to 1.5A versions

Ah I see, however the cost per unit increases as well so that it's not as economical as the LDD drivers (Unless you shop at Mouser :D) They do have their 10/20W one that pushes nearly 1500mA but it's $14, although their "5W" ones push about 1000mA max... not sure how 5 watt LEDs gets out of that

I agree these could be a decent alternative if you don't want to wait for the LDD drivers to get back in stock at wherever you stock. My only worry would be needed to isolate these away in some way due to the fact they're not encapsulated.
 
Perhaps I can be more clear. I am saying I buy the 0.5W version and solder on 3 x 0.33ohm resistors which add only a few cents to the total, and that gives me a "5watt" version which puts out 1000mA!

All of thier drivers are identical except for the Rsens Resistors used. the board has three positions for resistors. only on spot is used on the 0.5watt version I linked to. you can solder on two additional resistors and get the "3watt" version @ around 750mA or replace all three to get 1 amp output.

the 10watt driver they sell is really only two of the three watt drivers connected with a pair of header pins.......

total cost for "making" 12 1amp drivers on my last order per unit after including shipping and handling from two different sources, one for driver, one for resistors was only $4.36
 
Ignore thier marketing they use the assumption that your LED is 4 volts! the chips specs are all that matter. Sure's Data sheet is garbage, the one that matters for the chip used on the driver. MBI6651. the pdf I have is too large to post, you can find it on google.
 
hmm ok that is interesting then guess I just glanced over that part of your original post. Wonder why putting in more resistors makes it output that much more current
 
the resistor pads are in parrelel so adding more lowers the resistance. the formula for the driver chip is:

0.1/desired current out in amps = value of resistor in ohms

So for 1 amp output the equation is 0.1/1amp=0.1ohms or for the sake of orderin fewer components and which seems to be cheaper with the 1206 type resistors, they only stock .68 ohms and .33 ohms wich allows them to get the common desired drive currents. using only two compontents instead of many individual values.

In the case of the 1 amp version they use 3 x .33ohm resistors in parrell which gives 0.11ohms resistance. not quite exactly 1 amp but close enough to round to 1 amp.

for me the resistor total cost for my order was cheaper by far to order 100 of the resistors rather than just the 36 I would need to modify the drivers.......
 
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