Surge device and external overflow Q's

Catharsis70

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I am thinking of trying to build a small surge device for my 55 gallon reef. The overflow is a single drain Lifereef unit. Will the surge cause any problems for the overflow siphon? I know when I put my hands in the tank the over flow of course picks up some with no problems but this is probably a bit more displacement than my hand : ) Any insight would be awesome. Thanks!
 
It really depends on how much water your surge is going to release...
Also keep in mind the sump! Your water level will fluctuate by the capacity of your surge tank, will have impact on your auto top-off if you have one... I had to lower my float switch 3" as a result! Mine is built with a 5 gallon bucket, prolly dumping 3.5 or so gallons.
 
I don't have any experience with the lifereef overflow, but I would be very cautious. Just take it slow and see what happens.

chicagoman: how do you like the surge on your tank? I'm putting one in on a 120 gal.
 
How do you like your OM squirt? If money was not such an issue for me, I'd try em... I have a pair of MH 250 ballasts I am looking to trade for a couple used sea swirls (3/4")!!! I just don't care for all the bullbes from the surge!
 
Thanks for the input all. What would be a reasonable amount to put through it? The tank is 55 gallons. Sump holds 20 and can take another 20 before an overflow could happen. The overflow I am pretty sure can take up to 600 gph and I am returning 400 from the sump give or take.
 
You need to figure out how much water your 55 can hold by measuring how much room you have at the top. I think a 48x13 tank will have 2.5gal of water per inch of water height. So if you have 2 inches of space (I'll call it headroom), you can instantaneously dump 5 gals with no problem because you know the 55 can take it without overflowing (assuming your overflow continues to drain).

Or you can dump 7 gals, but do it at a slower rate so that enough water has gone through your overflow that no water spills over from the 55.

You can actually calculate the amount, but your numbers are only as good as the numbers you use for the return (gph), actual overflow capacity (any elbows or other restrictions can restrict the flow), size of pipe from the surge tank, height of surge tank from water, etc.

I'd just figure how much more water the 55 can hold. Then size the surge pipe to dump all the water in 30 seconds.

Since you have an extra 20 gal capacity in the sump, you are okay sump-wise. I also do no think that you will be dumping 20 gal of water in the 55 - because that means you only have about 35 gallons of water! Dumping 5 gallons in 30 seconds is pretty good for a 55. Try it with your 5 gal bucket (just manually dump it in water). Then you can get an idea of how much water and how fast you want it.
 
Yea, I am only dumping around 3.5 gallons thru a 1.5" pipe into my 125 (6' long tank). It takes around 4 seconds to surge, then around 60-65 seconds to fill. I see the surge reach around 5' across the tank! You want a quick surge, IMO a 30 second surge is useless, ya may as well just put in a PH!
 
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