The "Hitchhiker's Guide" to the Maxi-Stream mod

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I tried the aqua clear 402 and 802. When they start in the right direction these things are unreal! But even with the 402, if it starts in the wrong direction, it actually comes all the way out and even fell into the test bucket a few times. I can't seem to make a stopper work on it. With just the cross bar to stop it from flying out it just runs like heck in the opposite direction. Any ideas on how to make it reverse?
Mike
 
I havent dont a 802, only the big momma 901 so far.

Spazz, have you seen the 901/110 Aquaclear? Its the same size as an eheim 1262 (100gph powerhead), easy as pie to mod because it has a fixed shaft, and so far I put dual 2.3" props on it, it outdid a tunze 6200, so its something like 7000+gph, and it still had some headroom. Next I am going to try dual 3" props.
On top of that, its alot less expensive than an eheim. 10,000gph? Easy. Making a shroud is a non-issue. The other thing is that the prop on the 901 seems to always start in the right direction. I suspect that due to its size, it might be a 4-pole motor...always starting in the same direction.

smjtkj, I was suspicious of the Aquaclears ability to eject the magnet/prop all together. So far, with the ones I have done I havent hit that point, but I can easily see it happening.

On that case, if the combo does make enough backflow to eject the prop, that is a good thing, as then you can make sure that the prop wont keep rotating in the wrong direction no matter what...as it will eject itself if it spins wrong. To keep it from completely falling out, perhaps a simple cross piece on the shroud, about an inch from the prop would be good. That way, when the prop starts up, if its right, it stays and chugs water. If it starts up backwards, it ejects itself...but 2 things happen when it does. One, the mag drive is broken, so the prop stops spinning, and two, the prop will not fall off completely, only enough to stop, then fall bak into place and restart.

The Aquaclears do seem to have a very strong magnet for their size...I was able to run a 1.25" Dumas prop on the small 5 watt one (with the wattage drop it was prolly something like 3 or 4 watts) and it did great. Better than a MJ400.

I do have either an old 402 or 802 around here somewhere...Ill find it, mod it, and let you know what I come up with.
 
humm i think it would be better to use the aqua clear pumps for the bigger tanks instead of the eheims. o well i just trashed a perfectly good eheim pump. i like the solid center shaft idea. it makes it easer to mod the pump. but the down fall it trying to get the props centered to run smooth.
 
Glad you could join us Hanmiester :smokin: - been awaiting your input, so glad someone else has done the mod with the hagen/aquaclears.

When you said that they - lift just enough to cause friction on the prop and make it stop.

Do you mean they stop, or actually reverse them selfs?

& this-

[Quote HM] -The only problem with eheims that I see is that they have the shaft supported at both ends. At that, the Aquaclears end up being easier, and that 901/110 is just as big as an eheim 1262 in its output. [End Quote]

"may"? well be incorrect as it has more to do with the torque (Max head hight & motor block speed)) rather than the amount of water in GPH that it moves (think about what happens when you put a return pump under pressure?, you loose half of it)

& I have done the standard nozzle cut of routine with both the hagen 801 & the Eheim 1060 & believe me the Eheim moves at least 5 times as much :eek2:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7103272#post7103272 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Frunkster
Glad you could join us Hanmiester :smokin: - been awaiting your input, so glad someone else has done the mod with the hagen/aquaclears.

When you said that they - lift just enough to cause friction on the prop and make it stop.

Do you mean they stop, or actually reverse them selfs?

& this-

[Quote HM] -The only problem with eheims that I see is that they have the shaft supported at both ends. At that, the Aquaclears end up being easier, and that 901/110 is just as big as an eheim 1262 in its output. [End Quote]

"may"? well be incorrect as it has more to do with the torque (Max head hight & motor block speed)) rather than the amount of water in GPH that it moves (think about what happens when you put a return pump under pressure?, you loose half of it)

& I have done the standard nozzle cut of routine with both the hagen 801 & the Eheim 1060 & believe me the Eheim moves at least 5 times as much :eek2:


no he is doing something totaly different that what you did. he is adding the prop to it to creat a stream pump out of it. its totaly different that your mod.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7102831#post7102831 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by smjtkj
I tried the aqua clear 402 and 802. When they start in the right direction these things are unreal! But even with the 402, if it starts in the wrong direction, it actually comes all the way out and even fell into the test bucket a few times. I can't seem to make a stopper work on it. With just the cross bar to stop it from flying out it just runs like heck in the opposite direction. Any ideas on how to make it reverse?
Mike

did you try putting a stoper on the crossbar like they use with the mj?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7103295#post7103295 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by spazz
no he is doing something totaly different that what you did. he is adding the prop to it to creat a stream pump out of it. its totaly different that your mod.

You need to digest the thread a bit more Spazz :D , I answered your quire regarding the CF shaft question a while back ;) (Titanium is what you want for the job BTW)

& that pic is an old chop off mod as you should be able to see, but I was speaking about converting one to the propeller mod, like the other 3 I have just made/butchered lol

Come on stay with me guy's, hard enough as it is with the total lack of part availability here:lol:
 
Spazz, The prop runs smooth as silk on the aquaclears. No extra effort is needed. The only problem is the direction starts backwards 4 out of 5 times. Once it is right, the flow is unbelievable compared to the mj1200. I would say at minimum double on the 402 whichnburns 12 watts!
Mike
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7103470#post7103470 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by smjtkj
Roland, I did put one on it like the maxi. It just got stuck. It didn't reverse.
Their has to be a way to get this to work. Maybe try a left hand prop (if you were using right hand one, were you?)

Maybe the design lends itself to turn the other way. You said 4 out of 5 times the wrong way, and Hahn says the 901 starts every time in the same direction. The stop may work well with the other direction prop.
 
I finally got my Lutz mod kits to work right with my older mj pumps.
I just had to silicone the prop on the shaft. For some reason the magnet would vibrate inside the shaft. I could not figure where the noise was coming from until the second shaft came apart. Then I realized the noise was the magnet slot hitting the shaft and bouncing back over and over until the shaft exploded in to about three pieces. silicone the prop on the shaft. So theirs the mod for the maxi mod kit (i also sanded down the shaft just to make sure the shaft was not hitting becacause the shaft was a bigger dia than the magnet)
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someone wanted to see the lutz kit.
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7104306#post7104306 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by smjtkj
I am using a left hand prop. Maybe a right hand would work...
its worth a try. just guessing but i think it will work.
 
So has this thread totally gotten away from Maxijet ?

get to the back of the Jet, this is a hijack. Maxi-Jet is just a brand. its the same mod only bigger???
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7104532#post7104532 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Sh0gun
So has this thread totally gotten away from Maxijet ?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Maybe a new thread -

The Hitch Hikers Gide to increase flow to anything remotely pump like!

They are a good little pump, I just need something larger to run a big tank, like a few others here do.
 
carman, i have done, well attempted, the mod on a seio 820. i could get it to spin a pair of 1.75" props but i didnt like the flow. less than a maxi jet 1200. i think the seio spins it a little slower rpm vs. the mj1200. also getting the mod to fit on the seio and look good is really time concuming and ends up looking crude at best. but trying the mod on the seio is what made me go ahead and try it on the maxi, couldnt stop at defeat from a Taam product. now i just need a bigger tank to force me to build a bigger stream kit for
lol
Tim
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7104598#post7104598 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Frunkster
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Maybe a new thread -The Hitch Hikers Gide to increase flow to anything remotely pump like!

Coming soon on FOX: The R-C DIY Forum meets Monster Garage
Their Motto: We can increase flow on anything remotely pump like.

Episode 1
Mini Cooper reef tank:
100 gallons, 75 MPH, One water pump for the engine & tank:D
 
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