Update on clown babies

NicoleC

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I haven't reported in a while, so I thought I'd give some notes.

My clown babies are doing very well and entering a big growth phase. They are voracious eaters and are schooling together. They are a bit easily startled at this age -- probably because one gets spooked and they all swim away together.

FINALLY I have lots of stripes. It's about 7 weeks old for them. It;s very odd, but I seem to have two distinct sets of fry. One set is darker and their bodies are shaped more like their pa. (Some of you may recall that ma and pa are very different looking -- mama is tangerine and a little stubby, papa is almost red, has more black and has a sleeker body shape, although he has a smidgen of an underbite.) These guys are my monster babies that took an early lead on size. They look gorgeous and -- unlike pa -- no sign of underbites.

The other set is more orange and is smaller and they are rounder like mama. It's too soon to tell for sure, but some seem to have a slight underbite.

Here's the wierd part -- the small ones almost all have three good stripes. I say "almost" because they move to fast for me to be sure about them all. The bigger ones uniformly have their first stripe, a spot on the back where the second strip should be, and the third stripe varies widely -- one has NO third strip and some have a full stripe and a few have a spot on top like their second stripe. The stripes on these guys do not appear to be growing.

Call me crazy, but maybe pa is a A. percula instead of A. ocellaris? It would not srprise me to have at least some misbarrs, but the pattern seems odd under the circumstances.

I've never been able to tell them apart and have no good eyeball pictures and certainly none clear enough to count dorsal spines. They wiggle too much! Here's the best I can find in the photo archives, both are fairly old shots:

Papa:
pa.jpg


Mama:
ma.jpg
 
Pa definately sounds like an A. percula to me. I had the exact same thing happen with my cross hatches, lots of misbars and gill plate deformities with the ones that looked like Pa.
 
Hmmm. I will have to try to get a better shot of pa today. Maybe I can get a good shot of his dorsal fin. Got any photos of what a gill plate deformity looks like?

It's always bugged me that he was so different that the female. And he was a horribly sick little fishie when I got him, which I chalked up to the LFS' tanks -- which may still be true; I learned not to go in that store ever again. But she was quite healthy. And he was in a different tank than her. Perhaps he was a WC A. percula instead of the ORA ocellaris he was supposed to be.
 
Interesting the way the stripes come on them. I have some 4 week olds that are fully striped, and some 6 week olds that are not yet striped all the way. My first batch that are all the way grown up had very little misbarring by the end, but at this age, there was lots of misbarring.

I wonder what the signal is for the bars to form or not form, and why it seems that the signal trips at different times for different fish.
 
383 photos tonight while they were laying eggs, and guess how many had papa's dorsal fin in focus?

Ah well, here are mama and papa each taking their turn passing over the eggs, and then both together.

mamaeggs.jpg

papaeggs.jpg

botheggs.jpg
 
Look like ocellaris to me.

Speaking of stripes I have Black Ocellaris that are half way into their second stripe on day 11. I am amazed at how fast these guys are moving along. They were the biggest fry I have seen to date and they actually hatched tinted black like they do right before meta. Meta happened around 5-6 days post hatch.
 
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