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There's another possibility for the colorimetric kits. Another method of quantitative analysis is called standard addition.

In standard addition, the sample is first measured using some uncalibrated method. Then, a known amount of standard is added to an identical sample and it is measured by the same method. As long as the response is relatively linear or exponential, then a little algebra can tease out the concentration in the first sample.

Basically you have: (where f(x) is the response R for a given analyte concentration x)

f(Sample) = R1

f(Sample + Standard) = R2

or with a little algebra: (where the brackets denote concentrations of analyte)

[Sample] / [Sample + Standard] = R1 / R2


If any of you are math people like me, you see real quick that we have made some big assumptions here. We are assuming that f(x) is linear or that both measurements are within the linear range. Hopefully it will be close. If it is logarithmic or exponential, then we need some slightly different math.


This is not our first choice of methods when we are doing analysis, but sometimes it's all we've got. One example is when the sample matrix significantly affects the test and can't be replicated in a calibration curve. We do this with blood sometimes since we can't count on two different people's blood to be the same. In my line (mass spec) we label the standard with one or more isotope labels that allows us to tell the analyte from the standard and clear up the math. But I digress.


Another thing that can help is to use several standard additions over a range of values to create a sort of calibration curve. That math is a little more involved and there is the need to run several tests on the same sample to get a result. It might be worth looking into doing once or twice, but isn't something to do every time you test.



How can this help with a colorimetric test?

Since the result is so subjective with reading the card and all, then it allows you to run one extra test and reassure yourself a little.

For example, we have seen this thread a thousand times. Kit X reads 5ppm for nitrate and kit Y reads 50ppm. Which is correct?

If we add a known 10ppm from a standard solution, then we expect the result to change. If the real value is 50ppm, then we have only changed the concentration by 20%, so we would expect to see a 20% increase in the reading and get 6ppm from kitX and 60ppm from kitY.

If the real value is 5ppm, then we are changing the concentration by 200%. Since we are tripling the concentration, we expect to see a large change in the reading. KitX should read 15ppm, and kitY should read 150ppm or possibly off the charts.

The same sort of approach can be employed to answer the finding the right lighting conditions or which way to hold the tube questions. If you triple the concentration and the reading doesn't also triple, then you're doing it wrong.


Here's the rub. We are making the assumption that the concentration is in the testable range for both tests. That may not always be the case. So we have to be real careful with this method and think about what we are doing and the results we get.

We are also making some chemical assumptions that I'll not go into here. It has to do with any interference that is present in a small enough amount to throw off one measurement but not the other. I don't think we need to worry about it here.


I don't think we can use this to improve accuracy like we can with the titrations, but it does allow for a quick check when two kits don't read the same. At least for phosphate or nitrate tests. I don't want to talk about iodine or potassium until I have a chance to play with the chemistry. I know some lab methods, but haven't played with those kits.
 
Great thread guys although my head is spinning:lol: I'm one of those that has problems with test accuracy, math and most things scientific:hammer: Being a 'Senior', not only does the brain not fire on all cylinders anymore, the eyesight is going too:uhoh3:

I'm here because I've been battling nitrate problems and recently tried the new Red Sea nitrate kit. [I have used Salifert (Elos when Salifert wasn't available) kits for years but always wondered if I was reading the results correctly. (I gave up on API kits years ago:fun2:)] I was going to start a thread to see what others thought about the accuracy of R. Sea as compared to Salifert/Elos. I and another reefer ran both test kits 3 times in a row. We both got the same results every time... Using the high range for both: Salfert tested the nitrate between 10-25ppm; Red Sea was 4ppm. To me, that is a significant difference! The only conclusion we came to was for me to start Vodka dosing:headwalls:

It will be great if you can help me and others who have problems with the accuracy of test kits especially with CA, Alk, PO3, NO4, Mag.... I'm tagging along and Thank You for addressing this ongoing issue:D
 
I normally use Salfert test kits. I was curious to try Red Sea. Well, I bought one Red SEa Mag test kit. Normally the Salifert tests range from 1300-1450ppm. Well I used the Red sea kit and it's testing in the 1600ppm range. I want to say the Salifert kit is more accurate vs Red Sea. Both test kits have not expired, so IDK why Red Sea is testing way higher than Slaifert??

You guys experienced this with Red SEa test kits??
 
I normally use Salfert test kits. I was curious to try Red Sea. Well, I bought one Red SEa Mag test kit. Normally the Salifert tests range from 1300-1450ppm. Well I used the Red sea kit and it's testing in the 1600ppm range. I want to say the Salifert kit is more accurate vs Red Sea. Both test kits have not expired, so IDK why Red Sea is testing way higher than Slaifert??

You guys experienced this with Red SEa test kits??

I wouldn't want to say based only on brand which one is right. The thing to do is to check them against something known and see which one gets the right answer. I have some of the Hach standards now, but I haven't had a chance to do the dilutions and titrate them.
 
Great thread guys although my head is spinning:lol: I'm one of those that has problems with test accuracy, math and most things scientific:hammer: Being a 'Senior', not only does the brain not fire on all cylinders anymore, the eyesight is going too:uhoh3:

I'm here because I've been battling nitrate problems and recently tried the new Red Sea nitrate kit. [I have used Salifert (Elos when Salifert wasn't available) kits for years but always wondered if I was reading the results correctly. (I gave up on API kits years ago:fun2:)] I was going to start a thread to see what others thought about the accuracy of R. Sea as compared to Salifert/Elos. I and another reefer ran both test kits 3 times in a row. We both got the same results every time... Using the high range for both: Salfert tested the nitrate between 10-25ppm; Red Sea was 4ppm. To me, that is a significant difference! The only conclusion we came to was for me to start Vodka dosing:headwalls:

It will be great if you can help me and others who have problems with the accuracy of test kits especially with CA, Alk, PO3, NO4, Mag.... I'm tagging along and Thank You for addressing this ongoing issue:D



Thanks for stopping by. The alk, cal, and mag kits are what we are mostly working on here. But I can offer a little advise on the nitrate tests.

The problem with reading color is two fold. First of all, it depends on how well you see color. In reality our eyes are not all created equal. There is also the concern of how you hold the vial. If you look down through the top, you will be looking through more liquid so naturally the color will look darker. It is very important to read the directions carefully as two different tests might not be designed to be read the same way.

I haven't looked into any nitrate standards, but some test kits come with one. If you run the test with the standard, it allows you to check your technique and gives you something to compare your sample against.
 
Thanks David for the reply! I hear you about everyone seeing color differently and how the test vial is viewed :-) When my reefer friend tested the nitrate with her API, the result was very close to the Salifert result. Who'd a thunk ;-0)

I'm not aware of any test kit brand(s) that includes a standard. Can you help me out there with CA/Alk/Mag?

Thanks again David!!
 
Hopefully I am going to have a chance over the holidays to work with the Hach standards I got. I am fairly certain that they will work

Beyond that, some of the salifert kits come with a stadard, my alkalinity and calcium kits did but the magnesium kit did not. I also got a standard solution with all of the Seachem tests that I got. I'm not sure if it's their policy to include one every time, but so far every kit I've bought from Seachem had one.
 
The seachem alk test that I have is a drop count test and only has a resolution of 0.5meq/L or about 1.5dkH. I am not a fan of that.

The calcium test works great from what I can tell. It's always spot on with my Salifert test.

The magnesium test has an odd filtration step. It's a bit of a bear to perform, but the one I have gets good results. I still like my Salifert better.


One thing I do like about the SeaChem tests is that every one I've got so far has come with a calibration standard. I think all tests should come with one, but that's just my opinion.
 
This is quite embarrassing David but how does one know if a standard comes with a test kit? Is it a bottle/container which identifies it as such? I've never seen one that I'm aware of. I use Salifert kits but I'm at a loss if they have come with a standard...maybe I'm just dense!
 
It would be labelled somehow. In the case of my Salifert Alk kit, there is a bottle that says "Alkalinity Check Solution 6.7dkH +/- 0.3" right on the bottle.

With the SeaChem kits it is labelled "Reference Solution"

Either way, the bottle will have to be labelled with some concentration of the thing you are looking for. There are many things to call it, but it's just a solution with a known level of the analyte in it.
 
Thanks for the info David. I kind of thought that is what the standards would be/say. I've never gotten any in any test kit (Salifert, Elos, Red Sea, Seachem or API)....maybe some day:=)
 
Those are what I use and they seem to be very reliable and consistent. Most experienced reefers that I know use Salifert or Elos. I've used Elos too but like Salifert just a little better. I also use Salifert for nitrate testing. When it comes to testing for phosphate, I use the Hanner checker.
 
FWIW, I purchased the RS Pro nitrate test. As a comparison when testing my DT for trates, the Salifert test reads 10ppm whereas the RS Pro colormetric test reads between 2-4ppm. Although I have the most confidence in the Salifert test, the Pro test has been consistent. I have been vodka dosing and when the Salifert result goes down (also a color comparison chart) so has Red Sea's.
 
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