110g aggressive tank

perky

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Well, I have finally decided to go a aggressive/predator tank.

it will be 4 feet x 2 feet x 2 feet.

I was wondering whether you guys could give me suggestion of lighting, stocklists, filtration etc.

thanks in advance.

mike
 
I'm new to the hobby but I've spent countless hours researching aggressive/predator compatibility and it seems that most of the really cool ones need a bit of length to swim such as Triggers, Tangs, and Volitans Lion. I'm doing a 55 gallon 4' long and finding it difficult to find fish that fit. I see an upgrade and this tank isn't even set up yet. If I were doing the set-up, I would go with a 5'LX2'WX18"H 110 gallon setup instead. You can get some of the larger/faster fish, you'll have better oxygen exchange due to larger surface area, plus it will be alot easier to clean because it isn't so deep. JMO though. drhelm.com has a calculator for sizes/gallons if you need it. Apparently, you don't need much in the way of lighting except for the standard flourescents and actinics to bring out the fishs' true colors but for predators, excellent filtration, a protein skimmer, and good circulation are essential. I hope we'll get some updates from you as you go along!
 
Laura CLine brought up some REALLY good points, if you want to do ONE agressive tank, youve got to go bigger than your origional plan. most aggressive fish top 18inches and need lots of swimming room, and territory. i would say go with a 6ft long tank if you have the wall space for one, if not pick different fish.
 
LauraCline --- I have used the calculator on drhelm.com. very interesting. I have decided to add and extra foot in length, but, keep all of the other specs the same. So - 5' x 2' x 2'. (135g according to drhem.com)

Also, what thickness of glass/acrillic should I use. What fish would be able to go in? I really would like a small panther grouper or a marine betta.

mike
 
I think that is more like a 150g. 60x24x24/231=149.6g. That is a nice tank size. I would definately go with that one.
 
i have a 135 gallon 72x18x24 but had the chance to go with the 5x2x2 and wish iahd of the aquascaping when u start getting into the larger rocks becomes more of a pain in an 18 inch wide tank ends up leaving some real thin areas

However theres jsut something about having a 6ft long tank u jsut cant beat
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6534246#post6534246 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sean48183
I think that is more like a 150g. 60x24x24/231=149.6g. That is a nice tank size. I would definately go with that one.

You are right. It does = 149g. But, If the water level was 1" from the very top of the tank it would be 135g

Your aquarium can hold 149.61 gallons of Water. If we assume the water level in your aquarium is 1 inch below the top then the total gallons would be 135.11.
---- drhelm.com tank calculator.
 
my 110 60x24x18 wide... i have male bluethroat trigger, yellow tang, 2 blue damsels, strawberry pseudochromis, lawnmower blenny, flame hawk, golden dwarf eel.

i have a euroreef skimmer in a 30 gallon sump with a 7 gallon fuge. HOB filter for carbon, 4 powerheads, and 100+ lbs live rock.

the skimmer isn't big enough IMO, it doesn't get a lot of crap out like it should. But im not buying another one because im thinking of upgrading to a 180 or 210 and combining both my tanks...

but i like the 110 size. i just want more fish :) and dont want to crash it.. lol
 
Perky, that is fantastic. I think you'll be alot happier with this set up especially since you are keeping that nice 2' width. I'm not sure about actual glass thickness measurements but thicker usually equals stronger and when you're talking about that much weight and $$, I'd say thicker is better. You can easily do a marine betta. Panther groupers get 27'' long so that would be a stretch once he's full grown because he wouldn't have enough room to turn around but, yesterday I saw a tiny one here in Tampa at Coral Reef Aquariums that was only about 1-2" from head to tail. They do grow fast though. With the larger size tank, you have a wide selection of Tangs, Triggers, Lions, Wrasses, Puffers, Angels and Grouper. Research your selections carefully from several sources. I found out that the Clown Trigger I want so bad will get too big for my tank in pretty short order plus is likely to kill other tankmates even in a larger set-up. Of course there are tanks that defy all odds. We have a very peaceful 180G at work (which is the tank that got me hooked on this hobby) that contains a Regal Tang, Purple Tang, Yellow Tang, Naso Tang, Niger Trigger, SFE, Large Volitans Lion, Maroon Clown, Onespot Foxface, and a Bamboo Shark (I think not exactly sure of species). They all get along fine, even the yellow and purple tang are buddies. The owner told me everybody was added at once when they were pretty small.
 
you're lucky though. You can buy lion fish, eels, sharks etc where you live. All of these are on the prohibited species list, and, fish prices are a lot cheaper as well.

Marine Bettas cost about $200NZD ($136USD).
Panther Grouper $90NZD ($61USD)
Percula Clown $75NZD ($51USD)
Cleaner Shrimp $69NZD ($46USD)

Just to name a few.

Mike
 
Wow that is expensive. The little panther grouper was less than $20 here! I can understand not allowing sharks to be sold, they are hard to keep and the ecosystem needs them but, Lionfish are prevalent even in non-native waters (they have been spotted for years all along the eastern seaboard of the US for example) and I've seen eels just about everytime I've been in the ocean so I wonder what the reasoning behind those are.
 
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