125 in Townhouse

j tavares

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Moved into townhouse would like to place 125 along outside 2 nd floor wall one guy thinks it would be okay, had two forty breeders along this wall w/o issue , Want to know if a 125 and 40 gallon on second floor outside wall would support the weight, Please chime in as I want to reset up reef in 125, Thanks
 
probably, but you need to get an idea of what the framing is like. at least figure out what direction the joists are going.
 
date of construction and location will give a general idea as per the building codes when the home was constructed. for a real answer you will need to know the size of the support beams their length and the distance between each one.

If the home is in a city or otherwise zoned area and constructed within the last 40 years you will be ok, provided there is no damage.
 
You'll be fine, live loads need to much higher than just a small 1500 pounds. Could you imagine the lawsuits if you home broke every time you had 10 guys in a room together.
 
You'll be fine, live loads need to much higher than just a small 1500 pounds. Could you imagine the lawsuits if you home broke every time you had 10 guys in a room together.

And this is even if you are parallel to the floor joists?
Thanks!
 
I'm at 16'' between each joist, setting up close to outside wall, but parallel to the joists. I'm trying to align my tank to be sitting on 2 joists. 90gal + 30g sump.
Hope I'm not making a big error! :)
 
So long as your home was built to a US construction code and is in good condition you shouldn't have any worry with 120 gallons.
 
You are about to spend thousands on your tank + equipment. Hire a structural engineer for $250 and get it done right...
 
^agreed. Just because the home was made after a certain date doesn't mean it wasn't built correctly. I've helped with construction and have seen some very shady work done on million dollar homes. You never know what's under drywall until you detect an issue, and by then it's always too late. Hire a pro.
 
You should be fine.

My experience with contractors is they will be glad to take your money and tell you what you want to hear. They wave their hands around, feel the wall, put their ear to the floor, swing a dead chicken over their head and pronounce it safe to put an aquarium there. Not like 5 years down the road if something ever did happen you could find them. They would just lie and say you told them it was going to be a smaller tank or this or that. I hate contractors(no offense). If it's on a load bearing wall (outside wall) and the beams are running perpendicular to the tank it will be able to carry more than enough weight.

skeeter
 
Contractor, yes - Structural Engineer, no. The engineer will provide a report that will spell everything out and includes your project parameters... You should also get upper limits so that when you upgrade (as we always do) you know what you can handle.
 
unfortunatley the only way an engineer can make an assessment is by looking at the plans or ripping out the drywall. If your home wasn't built right and somehow passed inspection the engineer certificate won't cover the damages (differing site conditions clause). Unless you are willing to have your drywall removed there is not much a structural engineer can do. (They can use cameras for only small holes but that won't give them the whole picture)

An engineer assessment without looking under the drywall amounts to nothing more than swinging a dead chicken. There is no magical ability just science and facts that an engineer can't get to. So in practice engineers use what is called correlational curves to determine the capacity of your home based on the age and building code at the time. There is no other way to determine the capacity without drawings/removing drywall.
 
You should be fine.

My experience with contractors is they will be glad to take your money and tell you what you want to hear. They wave their hands around, feel the wall, put their ear to the floor, swing a dead chicken over their head and pronounce it safe to put an aquarium there. Not like 5 years down the road if something ever did happen you could find them. They would just lie and say you told them it was going to be a smaller tank or this or that. I hate contractors(no offense). If it's on a load bearing wall (outside wall) and the beams are running perpendicular to the tank it will be able to carry more than enough weight.

skeeter

Although I do like your 'swing a dead chicken' phrase, I disagree with you and question your ability to give advise. Let's start with not all exterior walls are load bearing and some interior walls are load bearing. Second, it's joists not beams running perpendicular to the tank that give the best support.

No one on this forum can truly say it's OK to put a tank in spot X. We are dependent on the OPs ability to accurately describe the on the ground situation. If the structure is covered (finished space) it will be extremely hard to judge the accuracy of someone inexperienced with construction. That is why, over and over, the best advise given here is 'hire a pro'.
 
I don't mind paying 200$ for an expert, but I want a real expert. Not sure how I'll find a pro with this kind of expertise...
I'm always scared to find the "chicken swinging" dude from "Shaman Engineering"...
 
I don't mind paying 200$ for an expert, but I want a real expert. Not sure how I'll find a pro with this kind of expertise...
I'm always scared to find the "chicken swinging" dude from "Shaman Engineering"...

It is relatively easy - just go to AngiesList or whatever and find a certified Structural Engineer. HomeAdvisor.com is another source. Mine was $85 / hr with a 3 hr charge. I was a bit lucky as my basement was exposed in the area that I was interested in because my previous tank was down there and I had just ripped out the fish room.

Getting architectural plans should not be a major issue for most current home, either.
 
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