240g dilimma - in wall, or garage fish-room

heap

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well...it's time to face facts. the original plan just isn't gonna work...

i'd picked up a 240g tank, nice stand, canopy, blah blah a while ago, with the intention to put it in a basement room (the only one on a concrete slab, it's a tri-level) and after getting it in the room it's occurring to me that it's just not gonna work. there is room for the tank, but there's no way to fit the accompanying goodies (sump, skimmer, bucket DSBs, fuge, etc) and not have it look like absolute poop. there's no good way to run the support elements to another room (as they're already in use by stuff i don't want to move, or above the level the tank is on)...and there's no way to fit it all in the stand.

most people, most hobbies...you'd realize you'd bitten off more than you could chew, and stop...but i think we all know it doesn't work that way in this hobby.

with this in mind, i've decided this big honkin' tank is going to go in the living room.

the wall i have in mind is on the other side of the attached garage, giving me two options....putting it in the living room, and running pipes thru the wall so the support elements will be in the garage...or hacking a 8'x2' hole in the wall as a viewing window and putting both the tank and support elements in the garage

this has led me to make the pros/cons list for each option, and i couldn't think of any other place to ask for additions and make use of other's experiences

in-wall
PROS
  • saved floor space - apprx 3'x8' more space in the living room
  • looks pretty pimp in the examples i've seen
  • would be quieter
  • much better ventilation for the lights than will be available w/ a canopy

CONS
  • it's a supporting wall...not sure what carpentry voodoo will be required to keep my house from collapsing
  • would put the majority of the water volume out in the garage, increasing the cost/hassles involved in keeping the temperature stable (i live in indiana...0F to 100F are possibilities)
  • the big hole in my wall when/if i decide to move
  • due to the height involved and the placement of the garage-door rails, i'll either need to alter the garage door, or the lights will be too close to the tank (4x400w MHs would have to be about 5" above the tank if i don't change the rails)
  • assuming i leave room for accessing the tank top for feeding thru the living room, i'm guessing i'd lose some of the effectiveness of the house climate control

in room
PROS
  • would make use of the stand and canopy i already have
  • making use of house climate control by virtue of having 2/3rds of the system water inside the house
  • likely cheaper and easier than the other option, as i am the antithesis of a handyman...i'd be begging/borrowing/stealing favors from friends to get an in-wall accomplished
CONS
  • loss of floor space, which for this room really isn't that big of a deal
  • would require supporting the floor (4ft crawlspace under this portion of the floor) - as is, there is a 125 in this place, but 240 would be pushing it, i'd think
  • noise - not that big of an issue as the overflows and two fairly quiet pumps running closed loop duty would be the only noisemakers inside


essentially, i'm fishing for advice and experience from those that have gotten the large tank setups accomplished. if you went w/ one of these routes, was there anything you'd have done differently? anything you notice on either list that i'm mis-thinking - or additions to either?
 
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If your room is big enough, and if it is square, you could put in a 3 foot deep false wall with insulated closets on either side to house your equipment.

Or build closest on either side of the existing tank and stand making it look like a recesssed wall with your support stuff in the closets.
 
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yah, that was kinda the plan i had in mind initially (a side cabinet sorta) for the downstairs room

the living room, a false wall would be kinda hard to as it adjoins a dining room/kitchen that's rather open...a wall there would be hard to work in and not look dorky
 
I've never done a really big tank. But this is what I have learned from all of my past home projects. When making the decission, take out all of the factors that are only part of the installation. Once that is done...they are no longer factors but you are left with the result of taking them into consideration. If you only consider the factors that will remain with either option for the duration...then you will be happiest with the result.

The winner this way may be more work but you will forget about all that hard work as soon as you see the finnished product and it is just what you really wanted.
 
julio - that'd be an interesting stand construction...any examples you've seen?

cameronsloan - i jive on what you're saying about installation, but...one thing i do have to keep in mind is that i'm not exactly handy. just keeps coming to mind that if i do go w/ in-wall, i may well not get this tank wet for another 6 months ;^)
 
I am undertaking the very same disision (without the worry of support issue) and I am going to approach it with Cameronsloan thinking. 6 months may seem like a long time, but it will all be worth it when completed.
personally I would reconsider the basement, I wish California homes were built with them!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7261540#post7261540 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by crzy_pig
personally I would reconsider the basement, I wish California homes were built with them!

heh, it's been considered, reconsidered, re-re-re-considered...i've had the tank in the room in several different arrangments, and while i could make it work, it'd just look like poop
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7261393#post7261393 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by heap
julio - that'd be an interesting stand construction...any examples you've seen?

Well, it would be just a regular stand that would extend in front and have steel corner bracing angled from the front legs to the front edge of the stand, i have seen it done, but not for an inwall tank.
 
do u like the stand u got with the tank?
is it high enough for u?
if so then use the stand if not make sure when u put it in the wall
that it is high enough for ur viewing plessure.
i made my own stand cuz i wanted the tank to be higher & i also
was going to make a "Bar" next to the tank (still in the works)
stand
 
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