55 or 75 reef for beginner

Yankeefan91

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Hello Reefcentral people. I have 7 years of freshwater fish keeping under my belt and have decided to establish a reef aquarium. I read this forum for hours on end but for a beginner, should I get a 55 or 75 gallon tank? Also what a nuisance animals that occur in reef aquariums and how do you get rid of them? (I already know about asperita.)

Thanks
 
go with the 75 for 3 big reasons.

1. the 75 is 6 inches deeper. this will allow you to aquascape much better.

2. the more water you have the more forgiving your chemicals will be. can be big when you are a beginner.

3. no matter what size tank you get you will want a larger one. the longer you are in the hobby the more stuff you accumulate and you wont have room.

only downside is you will have to put a little more into it up front. lighting, rock and filtration will be a little more.
 
i would do the 75 or maybe a 90, more room and more water, i also like the reef ready aquariums. there are lots of bad animals, mantis shrimp, aptasia, gorilla crabs, algaes, etc
 
good point. get a reef ready tank. it will give you alot more freedom with you skimmer etc. plus it looks better and you dont have heaters and such in your display
 
scrmbld33-I would like a 90 but 75 is as high as I can go for now!

doodoobrown-Please explain more about Mantis Shrimp. Also I am not getting a sump. I will get a HOB AquaC remora and a cpr HOB fuge. The reason for no sump is because I cant plumb and it's just one more thing that can go wrong. But I do understand your reasons for recconmending one.
 
I didn't listen to a freind when I started in this hobby and I bought a tank that was not reef ready. BIG mistake on my part. Do yourself a favor and start out with a Reef Ready tank. Thats the best advise I can give other than take your time, research and reseach and ask every question you have.
 
Go with the 75 for sure. It gives you alot more height and width. I would never downgrade my 75 to a 55 ever. 75 gallon tanks are easier to stack rock and you have more room.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6522194#post6522194 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Yankeefan91
StupidsReef- I don't plan on doing a sump right now, but why would an overflow be worse if I plan on one later?

Thanks

The over-the-side overflows can be a pain. If there is a power outage and it loses suction, it won't drain when the power comes back on. This can cause floods. Plumbing is easy... probably one of the easiest parts of setting up the tank.

I agree... go with a reef ready drilled tank with a built in overflow. It is safe and easy once you get your head around it. You will definitely not regret it.
 
NeilPearson-"Plumbing is easy... probably one of the easiest parts of setting up the tank."

Can anyone recommend any good sites for plumbing sumps?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6531917#post6531917 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Yankeefan91
NeilPearson-"Plumbing is easy... probably one of the easiest parts of setting up the tank."

Can anyone recommend any good sites for plumbing sumps?

All you do is have the drain from the overflow going into the sump. Then have a pump in the sump pumping the water back into the tank.

You can use PVC and glue it (which is easier than it sounds) or use flexible tubing. You can do a combination of those too if you want.

I'm not very handy and this was my first plumbing attempt. I didn't have a single leak with the PVC. I did have leaks because of schedule 40 bulkheads not holding well but when I changed them, everything was good. Just make sure you use good schedule 80 bulkheads. Here is my closed loop:

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The two inner pipes are intakes. Water goes down these to these 2 pumps (one on each side):

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Then it pumps it back up to the manifold on top:

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This is the water you see coming out of the manifold. The ones with no water coming out are the returns from the sump.

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Basically water goes over the overflow and drains down one of the 2 drain pumps down into the sump. Then it is pumped back up through the center pipe. (check out my aweful woodcutting job there - that proves just how unhandy I am - not to mention the sloppy purple glue around the joints on the pvc)

Basically, come up with a design and post it here. People will tell you if there are any issues with it. I probably went through about 4 different designs before I was happy with this. Even after it was build, I changed the plumbing to the pump (all the plumbing under the red valves to the pump) to flexible pvc. Also the plumbing to the sump was changed to clear flexible tubing. I got rid of the valves on the return to the sump too.... I just decided I didn't need them since it is so easy to drain the overflow

Anyways, that was just to give you some ideas. It is best to come up with your own design that fits your needs. There are lots of different sump designs out there.

Here's a good link that explains it:

http://www.melevsreef.com/what_sump.html

It can be as complicated or as simply as you like. It could be just a drain to the sump and pump pumping it back. I would go with 2 drains just in case one gets clogged with something though.
 
Get one from your LFS most will come to your house and set up a reef ready tank some at no charge most will charge but you will be happier in the long run I have a 110 and am going to sell it as its not drilled for over flow and I just dont like syphen type over flows, if any one is interested in it i live in arkansas.
 
I'd go 75 you will appreciate the extra depth in the long run. If you can do a sump I would as mentioned above get's all the equipment out of the tank.
 
get a 75, trust me. A 75 is 4 feet long like a 55 except it has 6 more inches of width all the way accross. Trust me it's a huge difference.

I have had a 55 for one year and do you know what I'm doing? Upgrading to a 125 because I don't like the lake of width in the 55.

And about "bad" creatures, don't be in a rush. In time with just being here you will find out about many of them.
 
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