65g stocking question

trukgirl

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Hello :)

So far in my 65g I have:
2 juvenile Oc. Clowns
1 Yellow Watchman Goby
1 Purple Firefish
1 3-Stripe Damsel
1 Coral Banded Shrimp
1 Bumblebee Snail
6 Hermit Crabs
(Yes I know I need more CUC lol)

I would like to add:
Lemonpeel Angel (substitution for Yellow Tang that hubby wanted)
Royal Gramma Basslet

Is this too many fish?

In a few months, I am going to start stocking corals. I am also possibly planning on getting an anemone for the clowns to host. Should I add the anemone first so it can find a spot that it likes, and then the corals? This is my first reef. The tank has a 20g sump that actually holds about 15-16g so apx 80+ g total. It has a 10g refugium in the middle with macro algae, live sand, and 1 piece of live rock.
 
No I don't think that's to many fish. In fact I think you could get away with a couple more as well, considering your filtration is up to par and you have enough live rock.

It doesn't really matter when you add the anemone because once it picks a spot, although its likely it will stay in place that doesn't mean it won't move somewhere else at a later date. Its more important to make sure you can provide the right environment for an anemone as far as lighting and water quality is concerned. They are not the easiest corals to just jump right into.
 
Thanks :)
So far there is 56 lbs of rock... I know I need more. Planning on at least another 20 lbs. The corals and such are still several months down the road. I have apx 4" of live sand in the tank as well. So far to date since I started adding fish all my parameters have been great. Only had a few minor spikes, like when I added a fish. There is a skimmer inside the first compartment of the sump also, and a sock at the bottom of the downtube. I have a 700 gph return pump, and a Hydor Koralia evolution 750. I hope that's enough circulation for the corals.

I have a friend that is going to give me a frag of pink mushroom corals when I am ready for them. Maybe I should try them first instead of the anemone then?? This coming week Hubby and I are going to finally make our DIY lighting upgrade, and soon after that I am going to start testing/dosing/whatnot for the calcium for the corals.

I am also aware that a Lemonpeel Angel may not possibly be reef safe... but that's what Hubby and I decided on after I finally convinced him that our tank is too small for a Yellow Tang.
 
i know the basslet would be fine, im not sure about the lemonpeel, i have no expierience with them
Goodluck.
 
Thanks :)

Everything I've read about the lemonpeel just says "reef safe = with caution"
I wanted to make sure I would not have too much fish bioload adding those 2 later on.
 
trukgirl said:
Thanks :)

Everything I've read about the lemonpeel just says "reef safe = with caution"
I wanted to make sure I would not have too much fish bioload adding those 2 later on.
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In my opinion Lemonpeels are the least reef safe angel (( along with a Bi-color )), and I wouldn't trust one in a reef tank.

I have also seen one pick at a Haddoni "carpet" anemone -- one of the stickiest and with one of the strongest stings for an anemone.
 
I have a lemonpeel angel fish and it is a beautiful fish. But it is not reef safe just as Toddrtrex said. However, I do have two frogspawn and it has not touched them, yet anyway. I am planning on adding a RBTA to my tank as soon as I can find one I like. I would not add the nem untill your tank is at least 6 months old. It needs time to mature before adding a nem. My tank is mainly going to be a BTA tank so I can get by with a lemonpeel. I would not put any LPS or SPS in with my lemonpeel (with the exception of the frogspawn.)
 
trukgirl said:
Oh, really???
Uh oh.... :/
Might have to find a different suitable replacement then...
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Of course each fish is going to be different. However, I know that I will never try another lemonpeel in any of my reef tanks.

You could see if you can get your hands on an C. Heraldi -- they are very very similar looking and from both my own personal experiences and from what I have read are better -- as far as being reef safe -- then Lemonpeels.
 
Thank you both :)

Wow, I just looked up that C. Heraldi, it is gorgeous. Looks even more like a Yellow Tang!!
I'm guessing maybe it is more reef-safe than the Lemonpeel then? I read a couple of articles and posts elsewhere that if you keep them well-fed they tend to be less likely to nip at corals?

ETA: My Yellow Tang replacement does not necessarily need to be an Angel... those were just small enough for my tank and the first thing I found looking for a replacement...
 
I would remove the 3-stripe damsel and replace him with a different fish. Dascyllus damsels are very territorial and aggressive as they get larger--yours is likely to wreak havoc in your tank at some point.

Does your husband have his heart set on a fish that looks like a yellow tang, or just a yellow fish, period? If he just wants a yellow fish, the so-called yellow coris or canary wrasse, Halichores chrysus, is lively, harmless to other fish, and bright yellow. They're beautiful, peaceful, and always on the move.
 
Really? All the magazines and articles I have read about Damsels say that the 3-stripe is the calmest of them... so far it is quiet and almost timid sometimes... I originally had it and the 2 damsels that are in my 10g in there while it was starting. (had the clowns in the 10g for quite a while since they were so tiny at first) I'm sort of afraid if I put it back in the 10g that the Domino damsel would beat it up. That domino is CRAZY and MEAN.

At first he sort of did have his heart set on a Yellow Tang. I showed him the pics of the Lemonpeel and the C Heraldi, and I'm not sure he really cared for them. Is that H. Chrysus reef safe? I'm gonna go look that one up soon as I'm done posting this.

Thank you :)
 
Three-stripe damsel, Dascyllus aruanus

Like the domino damsel, the three-stripe damselfish is a Dascyllus species. These are all aggressive fish and not recommended for peaceful community tanks. Unfortunately, a lot of stores sell them and other damsels to cycle new tanks, which is totally unnecessary. I've had three SW tanks so far and put all of them through a fishless cycle with no problems.

H. chrysus is reef-safe with corals and other sessile inverts. They do eat small featherdusters, pods, and baby brittle stars.
 
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