another ID please

neddog

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Had quick response on the last one. I've been wondering about these for a while. I checked the encyclopedia didn't see them. thanks
 

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There are so many different names for ones that look similar to these. I've looked for a while but can't find these exact ones
 
Anybody out there even know it these are common rare. Even if you don't know the name let me know if you've seen them before?
 
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