Another multi-clam problem...

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12557538#post12557538 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by johnnybravo234
I think just about everything has been suggested. I had a wrasse do the same thing to me. Did you add a bunch of carbon yet? You could have had a sponge die off or something. I heard that there are some sponges that can randomly drop dead and poison aquariums. If I were you Id do small daily water changes. Those are very nice teardrops. Good Luck!

J's tank is 1000g plus. LOL small dayly water changes would be huge in comparison to most tanks. I still think it is the wrasses and the tangs causing stress. But it is wierd to me that the clam in the qt tank is not making it now. Kalk does have a good point. But on the other hand since you successfully breed snails this heavy metal suggestion makes me question things. Have you had anything else die off recently that may be connected to the heavy metal theory?

And your clams are huge, it may just be old age too.
 
What about your lighting? A vivid green color in many corals is a response to intense ultraviolet light. I would doubtr the same reactyion is found in corals, but have you inspected your light recently? Just spitballing, though.
 
Kalk: We have discussed heavy metals before and I posted the results I got from AWT plus tried using the pads that supposedly turn color for certain impurities. I am currently working with Hanna on a new product release (well trying to get them to increase the range of a couple tests) that would give me much better insight into heavy metals as well as all the regular stuff we test. Unfortunately, there is just no way for me to know right now.

There IS a gold ring in the tank somewhere, but I doubt that coud be the problem since it has been in there since '06. My kalk has been giving me problems of late so perhaps that is an area of investigation. It has been becoming "weak" much too quickly and leaving a brown residue in the reactor. :eek:

Regarding salt: I test for everything I can somewhat religiously. Way more than the average reef keeper for sure. That doesn't mean there is no lead in it though.

Regarding additives: calcium bones soaked in RO/DI for days, swapping out until there is no PO4 leaching; Carbon soaked in RO/DI for days until completely devoid of dust, PO4 etc. Baking soda right out of the bag; kalk right out of the bag.

And that's it.

jmaneyapanda: I doubt it's the lighting. They have been under the same lamps for two years and the problem only came up in the Winter.

skinz78: I have had a couple of corals go over the last month. I had one pillar type coral rot from the inside out. I noticed a small amount of STN on the underside while fishing clams out of the tank, so a couple days later I pulled it and broke it off. Inside the "pillar" was the most foul black sludge, smelling like concentrated dead snails. About 90% went in the trash.

I also lost both duncan colonies.

The fact that the clam in QT is bad suggests only one common denominator: salt.

johnnybravo234: They WERE nice teardrops.

I am still very suspicious of alkalinity in this case. Although I have been able to maintain 7.0 - 8.0 for the last few months based on previous discussions and my own set point of 9.0, I feel that this parameter has been too unstable.

Seems strange that so many reef keepers in the Seattle area have lost all their clams though.

And one more interesting note:

I was perusing the latest "Aquarium Fish" and found a blurb about diseased clams. Unfortunately a google search brings up only 4 useless entries so I will write the blurb below:

IMPORTED DISEASED CLAMS DISCOVERED

Giant clams know as tridacnids that were imported from Vietnam were discovered to have Perkinsus olensi, an internationally reported pathogen. A University of Florida veterinary pathologist made the discovery, which is not believed to be a threat to human health or other reef species.

However, the pathogen's presence concerns scientists and aquaculture industry representatives. Giant clams are an increasingly large proportion of the live invertebrates imported with the intention of becoming aquarium specimens.....

Not to infer that my clams died of this disease, but I do find that interesting, especially since they all died at the same time. Also we in the Northwest are probably getting the majority of our clams through the same import source.
 
That clam plague was rather notorious, but did you add any new clams recently?

I was not refering necessarily to new lights, but instead an issue with existing lights (ie- crack in the outer envelope, DE shield, etc.) I think its a real stretch, but possible.
 
I don't think enough attention has been paid to the crab molt. There are many dangerous types of crustaceans, usually crabs, that we get on our lr. Most notably gorilla crabs, but when I was new here I read about a crab that fits that phenotype: red with black claws, blocky body. It's an obligate "non-reef safe" muncher, at the least irritating corals, clams, etc. IIRC, that is.
 
No new clams, but I will inspect the lamps and see if any are cracked. I suppose that is possible, but everything I have read about UV seems to point to our fear of it being unsubstantiated based on what water does to the light.

Scott, I had forgotten about the crab. I still suspect that one is in the tank, although I cannot confirm it. My reservation regarding this idea is that if it were some issue with another tank inhabitant like a crab or wrasse, I would suspect that they would die independent of each other, rather than all at one time.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12562453#post12562453 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
No new clams, but I will inspect the lamps and see if any are cracked. I suppose that is possible, but everything I have read about UV seems to point to our fear of it being unsubstantiated based on what water does to the light.

Scott, I had forgotten about the crab. I still suspect that one is in the tank, although I cannot confirm it. My reservation regarding this idea is that if it were some issue with another tank inhabitant like a crab or wrasse, I would suspect that they would die independent of each other, rather than all at one time.

Im not quite sure what you meant, but a MH lamp with any UV shielding is VERY dangerous to livestock. And yoruself realistically. I would imagione that you wouldve seen some other issues too, if this were the case, so I cant imagine its anything, but it worth looking at.

I find it unlikely your clams got that plague all of the sudden if you havent added any recently.


I think I know what did it- either aliens or Elvis!:D
 
well, and the UV thing doesn't make sense anyway since the clams were all over the tank. I know it wasn't Elvis 'cause he's tied up in the basement.
 
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