Anyone have Clown pair they wanna sell?

[GregDoug]

I would like to find a pair (breeding pair is even better) of clowns and wanted to see if anyone out there had some to sell? If you have a pair or a breeding pair that you would like to sell, please drop me a PM. I know how to make pairs and all, I just do not want to wait the year it takes before they spawn

Also, does anyone know if ORA allows tours?

 

[Frodo the Goby]

check your local fish stores I have seen them in Pet Mart, Fish and Other Itchy things and Finz several times.

 

[cschweitzer]

ORA does allow tours, but not sales when you go there. It is absolutely awesome. Contact someone in sales, maybe Vince Rado, he might be able to set something up.

 

[Gimplar]

I happened to be in Finz today and they had alot of black perculas (i dont think their actually perculas, im not sure, maybe onyx clowns?) but they had alot of pairs, they arnt full grown though and i believe they are tank bred. FAOIS also had some pair'd up clowns i remember (went there last saturday). Anyways good luck with your search, i'd sell you mine if i wasnt so god darn attached to them.

 

[HotReeferSRT4]

[violation]

 

[Gimplar]

That really depends...its risky to buy a pair that isnt mated yet. One has to be bigger then th other, (not guaranteed but it will help). All clowns are very territorial. It's a risk if you dont buy a mated pair.

 

[robthorn]

the fish at finz are an australian ocellaris variation. they are called darwin clowns by common name and are somewhere near $100 a pair if I am correct. I may be way off so please call before taking my word. they are not so commonly collected and the face should turn completely black on most. this is what I here and do not know for sure because the faces are orange right now on some of them. since I have bred clowns I do know some colors come later in life . even stripes on clowns take some time coming in on some. some never get the stripes or half stripes. I think they are only collected near darwin australia or something.
if you buy mature adults or large juveniles it is more risky. that is why most recommend getting small ones . buying pairs to me are over rated and too expensive. I have had 4 breeding pairs of different species clowns. I never once bought a mated pair that actually bred.
if your water is right most small clowns will grow into a pair and eventually mate. also they should be in a tank were they arrent harrassed by tankmates. it is cool for me to watch them grow then mate but we are all ready for things to happen now.

 

[Gimplar]

Good advice rob. and yes, i believe they were 100 per pair

 

[robthorn]

thanks gimp. glad the price was right also. I am trying to pair some allardi's still. I am on the 4th little guy and so far not good. original still chases the new half size one. the larger is a mean ....... to the new little guy. 2 weeks or more and not together yet. chasing and beating. if you can get 2 out of the brood and at the same time you are much better off. my opinion of course.

 

[GregDoug]

Rob, have you tried seperating the allardis with a tank divider... maybe put them in a 20 gallon and seperate... or but two flower pot type structure in your tank on opposite sides... so they can seperate and the smaller one can hide out?

 

[robthorn]

I have a 7 ft long tank. they will survive or not. I acclimated the new one to the tank by leving it in the sump a week. when i decided it was healthy I put it in the tank at night. I have 3 anemone's and the old one takes the 2 roses at night and the new one stays in the long tentacle at night only then gets run to the end of the tank when the lights come on. sometimes the older one chases and sometimes just hangs with the new one. I think they are past the killing stage and seperating at this point would probably do nothing. lots of times they act cool then when they can get to them they turn and kill. hard to make a decision and know it's the right one so I just stay consistent. sooner or later it will work I will try to get a pic of the small one hanging out and post. it has a good amount of room to the side of some rocks.

 

[h2joe]

if the occ. at Finz are truly w.c then i would expect that a lot of breeders would be interested because i have heard that the guy collecting them from Darwin was eatin by a croc. i would be willing to bet that they came from ORA though since you stated that they still have orange faces and the pics i have seen of the clowns from darwin are completly black. just a thought though.

 

[robthorn]

joe that could be true or not. another local store owner tried to get the same exact fish from the same exact source. they are not ora sorry. if he had gotten them you would swear they are wild caught. I can't say exactly were they came from but O.R.A. is not the place. now if someone in australia bred them I don't know either. they did come from australia though. finz just happened to get their order in first. actually the other store may have gotten some also. I know I got a call saying they were trying to get them if I am interested in some. I have not heard they were ever in that store. I am buying a new motorcycle tomorrow so I have tried to stay out of the fish stores lately.
eaten by a croc? thats a pretty tall tale. but in australia totally possible so who knows. I just say I hope not. the color changes with age on most clowns. I did have 1 darwin before. my buddy shaun had 1 wild caught darwin and 1 captive O.R.A. that was also completely black no orange at all. the wild had a small amount of orange on the face for a few months. who knows who is right or wrong. all I can say is they did take a plane ride from australia.

 

[GregDoug]

can someone post the difference between black percs (which are black oc.) and darwin percs? I read " a localized color-morph of A.Oscellaris that is only found off the coast of Darwin, Austrailia" I also found "Darwin Clowns are basically tank-bred black ocellaris clowns bred and raised by ORA. The LFS I bought them from marketed them as Darwin Clownfish, largely because their ancestors were collected from the Darwin region near Australia."

So are the common black percs and the darwin percs the same thing? I saw a LFS that has 40 or so darwin babies (a couple months old) and they were so similar in size, they were likely to be from the same clutch. They wanted about $45 a peice for them.