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In Memoriam
OK, so since I don't actually have my "bangaii" breeding log even close to started, what the heck, I'll post a new thread to get some quick feedback 
So, included here are 3 shots...this clutch was spawned sometime on the afternoon of 5-19-06 before 5:00 PM, and was stripped from the male around 2:45 AM on 5-20 - for whatever reason our male will NOT hold to term or anywhere close to it in the main tank. We've had our suspicions ranging from fertility issues to general tank commotion. Generally, he'd hold for 48 hours at the most, thus why I stripped them so early.
First question - 3 pics, including one VERY closeup of a single egg (you can see it off in the corners of the 2nd and 3rd pictures) - is this batch fertilized?
Since these are stripped, I have 2 methods for incubation already set up.
1. The 1 gallon drum Kriesel (see the mandarin thread if you're not familiar). Since this was already set up and running, I've placed the eggs in it for now. Getting the flow in here to keep the eggs suspended doesn't look plausible in the long run..it's either too much current and the eggs get whipped around the kriesel rather violently, OR the current is not strong enough to dislodge them from the "nook" that's formed by the foot of the bowl. I currently have the current strong enough to vibrate them while sitting at the bottom of the bowl, but not enough to give them any more rough trips around the bowl at high velocity.
2. I also have an egg tumbler built and on hand that can be set up in minutes. It is a tumbler built in the style of an African Cichlid Egg Tumbler - a vertical cylindrical container with mesh at top and bottom holds the eggs, above it an under gravel lift tube draws water in from the bottom...ideally with the cichlids these are set up so that there's just enough water passing through to keep the eggs vibrating, but not enough to lift them. Works fine for the cichlids, but with the egg MASS of the cardinalfish, again getting the right flow was difficult and the first time I tried this it failed.
3. SOMETHING DIFFERENT? I've seen other tumblers, most noteably some sort of setup that utilized something like an inverted two liter pop bottle with the base cut off where the water was pumped in slowly via a powerhead from the bottom..strong enough to keep the eggs tumbling but NOT strong enough to push them up and over the top.
SO...given those three methods...which is the best pick?
Hopefully the eggs will last long enough in the kriesel should any changes need to be made tomorrow..I'm pretty WIPED OUT!
LOOKING forward to all your experienced bangaii responses.
So, included here are 3 shots...this clutch was spawned sometime on the afternoon of 5-19-06 before 5:00 PM, and was stripped from the male around 2:45 AM on 5-20 - for whatever reason our male will NOT hold to term or anywhere close to it in the main tank. We've had our suspicions ranging from fertility issues to general tank commotion. Generally, he'd hold for 48 hours at the most, thus why I stripped them so early.
First question - 3 pics, including one VERY closeup of a single egg (you can see it off in the corners of the 2nd and 3rd pictures) - is this batch fertilized?
Since these are stripped, I have 2 methods for incubation already set up.
1. The 1 gallon drum Kriesel (see the mandarin thread if you're not familiar). Since this was already set up and running, I've placed the eggs in it for now. Getting the flow in here to keep the eggs suspended doesn't look plausible in the long run..it's either too much current and the eggs get whipped around the kriesel rather violently, OR the current is not strong enough to dislodge them from the "nook" that's formed by the foot of the bowl. I currently have the current strong enough to vibrate them while sitting at the bottom of the bowl, but not enough to give them any more rough trips around the bowl at high velocity.
2. I also have an egg tumbler built and on hand that can be set up in minutes. It is a tumbler built in the style of an African Cichlid Egg Tumbler - a vertical cylindrical container with mesh at top and bottom holds the eggs, above it an under gravel lift tube draws water in from the bottom...ideally with the cichlids these are set up so that there's just enough water passing through to keep the eggs vibrating, but not enough to lift them. Works fine for the cichlids, but with the egg MASS of the cardinalfish, again getting the right flow was difficult and the first time I tried this it failed.
3. SOMETHING DIFFERENT? I've seen other tumblers, most noteably some sort of setup that utilized something like an inverted two liter pop bottle with the base cut off where the water was pumped in slowly via a powerhead from the bottom..strong enough to keep the eggs tumbling but NOT strong enough to push them up and over the top.
SO...given those three methods...which is the best pick?
Hopefully the eggs will last long enough in the kriesel should any changes need to be made tomorrow..I'm pretty WIPED OUT!
LOOKING forward to all your experienced bangaii responses.
