But its such a relaxing hobby!

BrklynArch

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Just venting......
So I've had the bean animal drain set up for almost 4 years now and I love it.
I made sure to plumb all my connections with as many unions as I could in case I ever needed to swap something out or disassemble anything for maintenance.
I also incorporated a gate valve on the main siphon drain in order to fine tune the flow.
A few nights ago the tank started to make sounds indicative to air being trapped in the drain. I go over to fiddle with the drain and come to find out that the stem of the gate valve has a slow drip. As I apply a little pressure I can hear the air start and stop and now the leak gets faster. I quickly close the valve all the way and have the secondary drain take over duty for the time being.
Being that gate valve was plumbed in on both ends with unions I figure should be an easy fix....right?
Long story short, get a replacement gate valve, so I go to work plumbing that up with new unions so I can complete the swap. Remove the old leaky gate valve and go to swap.
The new 1.5" unions don't fit the existing 1.5" union. The existing union is somehow smaller even though it's the same 1.5" size.
No idea how that's possible. And because the unions don't match need to cut out the entire drain assembly at the bulkhead and replace the entire thing including the bulkhead.
Next morning I wake up to my return pump sucking air. I investigate further and turns out my Tunze Osmolator decided to call it quits after 4 plus years of pretty reliable service. I contact Tunze and explain the abnormal sequence of yellow lights blinking and whatnot and come to find out it's a highly unusual way for the unit to fail and needs to be sent in for repairs.
As I'm checking out the problems with my ATO I notice a small puddle at the foot of the tank. One of my return bulkheads has cracked and is leaking saltwater all down the back of the tank. Quickly shut off the return on the left side of the tank and hit the computer to order a replacement 1.5" gate valve and a few replacement return bulkheads from BRS.
Good thing I ordered extra return bulkheads because shortly after cleaning up the mess from the morning's leak I see the right return line has also developed a small leak. Turns out I must have bumped the return line trying to get my ATO out of the sump and in doing so caused both return to leak.
In the short matter of 12 hours I had 3 separate, unrelated "disasters" (I use that term loosely because we all know what a real tank disaster can be). Good times!
What's up with mismatching unions of the same size??? I thought all unions were created equal!
:headwalls:
 
sucks it all happened, but atleast it was at once so you could take care of it and not spread it out and potentially have an even bigger problem.


as for union sizes, probably depends on manufacturing since its been a few years apart.
 
Mr. Tan hit it on the nose.

Look at it this way. After this round of maintenance, you can sit back for a few more years and enjoy your tank.

Best of luck!!!
 
Relaxing :lmao:

I watch. I worry. I pace. I listen for odd noises. I watch some more. I worry. I pace.....

I'm with Mr. Tan though - At least it all happened at the same time. I went to make a minor plumbing change a couple of weekends ago, and ended up spending 2 days on the friggin' thing!

Love this hobby. :bigeyes:
 
Perfect example to back up my plumbing extras - I have enough spare PVC and parts laying around to totally re-plumb my system from scratch "just in case" of events like this.

My fear is that I would catch it at 10pm Sunday night or something when no store is open so I am doing my darnedest to be prepared for a disaster.
 
I've had sump and plumbing emergencies before. What makes it so bad is that it happened the day I had to go out of town. I threw a heater and an air-stone in front of one of my powerheads, and all was fine. I've even run my 225g for a week like that before while doing some major repairs. I kind of define emergencies as something that will immediately kill my fish or flood my house. JMO...

Sumps aren't absolutely necessary, but a definite help. I had to do some large water changes after it went for a week without my sump...
 
The hardware stores buy the cheapest unions they can get. The manufacturer often changes which means you have slightly different sizes. Buy a bunch so you have the right size to swap out when needed. Or you can spend a lot per union with some big name brand types and they most likely will fit if you need to order another down the road, but then you have to wait for it to be shipped.
 
Haha....I guess you learn something new everyday!

I never would have thought that unions differed like that.

Next build it would make sense to go with the pricier schedule 80 unions and fittings. Its totally over kill but the peace of mind you have knowing you can replace a union a few years down the road with the same size fitting is worth it.
Unless the schedule 80 stuff changes year to year too.....in that case...well...i dunno
 
Someone said to me recently, "My reef tank? I consider it a VERY healthy love/hate relationship."

Sorry for your troubles!
 
Just venting......
So I've had the bean animal drain set up for almost 4 years now and I love it.
I made sure to plumb all my connections with as many unions as I could in case I ever needed to swap something out or disassemble anything for maintenance.
I also incorporated a gate valve on the main siphon drain in order to fine tune the flow.
A few nights ago the tank started to make sounds indicative to air being trapped in the drain. I go over to fiddle with the drain and come to find out that the stem of the gate valve has a slow drip. As I apply a little pressure I can hear the air start and stop and now the leak gets faster. I quickly close the valve all the way and have the secondary drain take over duty for the time being.
Being that gate valve was plumbed in on both ends with unions I figure should be an easy fix....right?
Long story short, get a replacement gate valve, so I go to work plumbing that up with new unions so I can complete the swap. Remove the old leaky gate valve and go to swap.
The new 1.5" unions don't fit the existing 1.5" union. The existing union is somehow smaller even though it's the same 1.5" size.
No idea how that's possible. And because the unions don't match need to cut out the entire drain assembly at the bulkhead and replace the entire thing including the bulkhead.
Next morning I wake up to my return pump sucking air. I investigate further and turns out my Tunze Osmolator decided to call it quits after 4 plus years of pretty reliable service. I contact Tunze and explain the abnormal sequence of yellow lights blinking and whatnot and come to find out it's a highly unusual way for the unit to fail and needs to be sent in for repairs.
As I'm checking out the problems with my ATO I notice a small puddle at the foot of the tank. One of my return bulkheads has cracked and is leaking saltwater all down the back of the tank. Quickly shut off the return on the left side of the tank and hit the computer to order a replacement 1.5" gate valve and a few replacement return bulkheads from BRS.
Good thing I ordered extra return bulkheads because shortly after cleaning up the mess from the morning's leak I see the right return line has also developed a small leak. Turns out I must have bumped the return line trying to get my ATO out of the sump and in doing so caused both return to leak.
In the short matter of 12 hours I had 3 separate, unrelated "disasters" (I use that term loosely because we all know what a real tank disaster can be). Good times!
What's up with mismatching unions of the same size??? I thought all unions were created equal!
:headwalls:

That absolutely sucks. You have my sympathy. Completely unrelated to your "disasters," but seems like every morning I check my 180, there is something that needs my IMMEDIATE attention to avert potential disaster. I am starting to get really tired of almost daily emergencies.

Mike
 
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