clove polyp failing badly [newbie here]

[smaug1]

]1. Temp of tank 78 deg f
2. All parameters including , Alk, PH, Mag etc and even Calcium in my opinionalk 12,ph 8.0,mag 1400,ca 550
3. Salinity1.025
4. Is it a frag, colony, new addition, wild caught or not, shipped or pick up? wenew in the past 2
weeks,colony, picked up
5. Have you made any changes just prior to or during the issue? added 230 watts of t5ho lighting same day I added them
6. List the current/flow, even lighting when applicable. med flow tank 6 bulb t5ho,58 gal tank
7. Additivesstrontium and moly,mag dose
8 nitrates less then 2ppm
9 phos 0
10 skimmer none
11 filtration purigen,carbon,phoslock,nitrate lock

I have an issue with my almost 2 week old clove polyp colony,they looked better at the 5 day mark briefly then they do now,now the bigger cloves stay closed all the time it seems while the smaller daisy types stay out ok but seem to be diminishing in numbers.Here is a pic at there best and this was about 4 days ago.


this is what they look like now with the exception that the small daisy types are closed in this pic but normally open otherwise.


In the first pic they are about haflway down the tank in the second they would be at the top and that is since yesterday. I did have them at the bottom for several days at first with no better results from the large ones.I am getting some fine green algae on this rock but not on the polyps.

 

[smaug1]

Nobody? Wow! I stumped the pros again! Lol

 

[deadmeat]

Give them some sunscreen or move them lower.

Give them some sunscreen or move them lower.

Read a little more about them, my experience with clove types is start them on the bottom and work their way up. Often they are not a top shelf coral under strong t5. 230W is going to give you strong light near the top on a 58G. Moving every few days may not allow you to see results.
Most reading on this will also support your first location may be a little intense. When you cannot find information here on newer stuff try wetwebmedia (Bob Fenner's) site.

Tom

 

[smaug1]

I come to forums to get advice from people who have first hand experiance with whatever issue it may be. I am a very active member of a few different forums but this particular one baffles me. It would be so simple for someone who has experianced this problem to chime in and simply answer the question but that doesnt seem to be the way over here at RC. A shame really,big membership,very little interaction to the newbies when they need it.:thumbdown

 

[deadmeat]

Nice Quote...

Nice Quote...

I come to forums to get advice from people who have first hand experiance with whatever issue it may be. I am a very active member of a few different forums but this particular one baffles me. It would be so simple for someone who has experianced this problem to chime in and simply answer the question but that doesnt seem to be the way over here at RC. A shame really,big membership,very little interaction to the newbies when they need it.

Smaug1,
I did wait multiple days before I decided to reply to your latest post because I understand you are new and seem to be frustrated. I'm not going to waste your time with nothing but the truth since you did not seem to think withholding insults or patience was needed when asking people for help.

Seems you might want to take time to research animals before you "impulse buy". I consider your lack of research just plain selfish and irresponsible to the trade and other hobbyists if you desire to collect animals/livestock before doing your research on proper care. Frankly the experts who you claim are responsible for not responding to your thread in a time appropriate to your patience shows your lack of courtesy and maturity (I bet they did research!). I understand you have not taken the time to establish a properly cycled tank with all the glory that gives you the bio needed to keep any coral, but is that our fault? After you read this take five minutes and stare in the mirror while you grasp whom is really at fault and needs to be blamed for your crisis. Next time you may also want to consider putting your request in the proper forum, which is not the "zoa forum". example: Do you think I would waste your time in the LPS forum with zoa problems? Further this just shows your lack of dedication to your livestock and thus warranted this reply. Please do not continue to show your maturity with such blatant displays in the future. Satisfaction is not an instant reward after your fill a tank with saltwater, take the steps everyone else does and learn to grow algae first.

Tom
P.S.-To any other members here whom may feel I'm out of line or I have hurt your feelings, Sorry, sometimes the truth has to be told...

 

[Gamepro_inc]

I will attempt to help although I am in no way an expert or even intermediate as I have only been doing this for 6 years I am a newbie myself in that regard. I agree research is key so hopefully you are doing some of that. I once had a tank filled with clove polyps almost to the point of infestation. Then by accident I turned off my skimmer and powerheads for a day while doing a water change and forgot to turn it back on so only the main pump was running. The next day I looked at the tank and all but 1 rock had died of clove polyps all other corals were fine as well as fish and inverts. I asked a few people what they thought happened and the general thought is that the O2 in the tank dropped at some point to the point that the clove polyps couldn't survive. If you ever watch zenia this may help the idea they pulse fast during the day but in the evening its much slower perhaps the reason for this is because that tends to be the respiration period for corals the preverbial exhale. I only mention this because I noticed you said you don't run/use a skimmer so I am curious how your water is oxagenated if you don't have a powerhead agitating the water near the surface then you may have found your problem. Again I am no expert and I hope this just gives you a point to continue your research from.

 

[smaug1]

I come to forums to get advice from people who have first hand experiance with whatever issue it may be. I am a very active member of a few different forums but this particular one baffles me. It would be so simple for someone who has experianced this problem to chime in and simply answer the question but that doesnt seem to be the way over here at RC. A shame really,big membership,very little interaction to the newbies when they need it.

Smaug1,
I did wait multiple days before I decided to reply to your latest post because I understand you are new and seem to be frustrated. I'm not going to waste your time with nothing but the truth since you did not seem to think withholding insults or patience was needed when asking people for help.

Seems you might want to take time to research animals before you "impulse buy". I consider your lack of research just plain selfish and irresponsible to the trade and other hobbyists if you desire to collect animals/livestock before doing your research on proper care. Frankly the experts who you claim are responsible for not responding to your thread in a time appropriate to your patience shows your lack of courtesy and maturity (I bet they did research!). I understand you have not taken the time to establish a properly cycled tank with all the glory that gives you the bio needed to keep any coral, but is that our fault? After you read this take five minutes and stare in the mirror while you grasp whom is really at fault and needs to be blamed for your crisis. Next time you may also want to consider putting your request in the proper forum, which is not the "zoa forum". example: Do you think I would waste your time in the LPS forum with zoa problems? Further this just shows your lack of dedication to your livestock and thus warranted this reply. Please do not continue to show your maturity with such blatant displays in the future. Satisfaction is not an instant reward after your fill a tank with saltwater, take the steps everyone else does and learn to grow algae first.

Tom
P.S.-To any other members here whom may feel I'm out of line or I have hurt your feelings, Sorry, sometimes the truth has to be told...

The tank has been properly cycled for over 5 months. All parameters and other water keeping issues are in order.I did research clove polyps.I did not put it in the right forum. You have made quite a few assumptions and in a lame effort to browbeat me ,you yourself have shown your lack of maturity and dedication to a fellow hobbiest. To be totally honest,you fit right in here,I dont.
Gamepro: Thanks for the sincere attempt at helping me,you dont fit in here!

 

[ahenson]

When you list flow as medium, what does that mean? Clove polyps like low flow, and lower light. Mine grow best in the shade or in a almost hidden spot. I think my rabbitfish eats mine as well.

 

[deadmeat]

The tank has been properly cycled for over 5 months. All parameters and other water keeping issues are in order.I did research clove polyps.I did not put it in the right forum. You have made quite a few assumptions and in a lame effort to browbeat me ,you yourself have shown your lack of maturity and dedication to a fellow hobbiest. To be totally honest,you fit right in here,I dont.

smaug1,
You are correct my apologies, I do not know what got into me. On another note as the person above said mine always like low light and low flow as well.
Cheers,
Tom

 

[gh0st]

Try a reef dip, ideally first thing in the morning before lights come on.

Clove polyps are frequently infested with a species of nudibranch that will destroy a colony in no time flat.

Might also be early signs of a cyano bloom or other bacterial infection of the coral itself.