clown feeding

[timrandlerv10]

1) what are people feeding clowns?

1.5) what are you feeding your mated gsm w/rbta?


2) HOW are you feeding your clowns?


3) how do you 'hand feed' a clown?

(especially to build trust so i can dip him because he's not just a runner, he's a good one and i dont want to come back to my office at midnight because i live 30 minutes away!)

thanks!

 

[redvipe2010]

Re: clown feeding

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9141932#post9141932 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by timrandlerv10
especially to build trust so i can dip him because he's not just a runner, he's a good one and i dont want to come back to my office at midnight because i live 30 minutes away

Can you explain this more?

 

[timrandlerv10]

I imagine you meen the 'dip' part...he has a white spot at the base of his tail, and I have been unable to get a good look at it. I'm not sure if it is ich, but it hasn't spread anywhere else or to anyone else.

 

[redvipe2010]

How long has he been in the system? What else is in there? Has anything changed in the system lately?

One white spot "may" be nothing to worry about. Was he previously quarantined?

 

[timrandlerv10]

He (they) were isolated, but in the same water in which they were raised. I FW dipped them when I got them, but I didn't have a QT tank set up--it was un-planned purchase; I got a mated pair of GSMs for $25. I have had them for about 4 weeks.

No other spots or any funny activity.

Other changes: none, except for dropping a week's worth of food in the tank on Wednesday, which turned into hair algae this morning.

I see 25% changes in my future...

 

[redvipe2010]

Thats a lot of pollution! Definately keep checking your water parameters, and be ready for those water changes. Do you have a skimmer?

I don't think the white spot is Ich. Ich is usually more than one or two spots. It may just be something that will go away on it's own. Keep an eye on him and see if any other spots develop, or any other signs of illness. Don't add anything else until you know for sure. I do recommend getting a QT tank, for all new additions, and when something like this comes up, it doesn't have to be fancy. If you can, post a picture, which I'm sure will not be easy.

 

[Kmiec123]

Maybe a dumb comment, but is the third stripe developed, sometimes that can look like a white spot. But, if you said they are a mature pair I guess so, so yes I am the master of stupid comments....Sorry.

 

[Slakker]

Definitely not a dumb suggestion...at the very least someone else might be helped by it. Good thinking, I would never have thought of that.

 

[redvipe2010]

He said "mated" pair.

 

[Slakker]

Yeah, I realize that...but it doesn't mean that what Kmiec said was "dumb," just irrelevant.

 

[redvipe2010]

I don't think it was a "dumb" question at all. In fact many people are told they are purchasing a "mated" pair, which in fact they find out later it is a "bonded" pair, if that. If he got a "mated" pair for $25 he got one heck of a deal. Not a dumb question at all. It was in fact a very good point. It was not something I thought of either.

 

[TOURKID]

I have a pair of gsm (not breeding but inseperable mostly) in a bubbletip.

I JUST recently got the female to eat from my hands. had her 9 months at least.

On a normal day I turn the pumps off, get a turkey baster and suck up some already defrosted and rinsed 3 times frozen food thats soaking in saltwater with garlic and selcon ( i do this to three cubes and it last 3 days or so, rinse alot to get rid of all that extra oil/particles etc)

Then I point and shoot. This all started because they wouldent leave the nem to eat. so i have to get it to em with the baster.

But within the last month if i feed flake or put a shrimp in my fingers she'll rise to the top and take it very gently. She doesent bite my hands when theyre in the tank anymore unless I wear gloves... then she'll bite and twist like a pitball and hang on. kinda funny really lol

I feed twice a day.

Food varies. mysis shrimp, emerald entree, marine cusine, cyclopeeze... omega flakes (the kelp and the marine kind) prime reef flake... all frozen food is dosed with garlic and selcon and sometimes zoe, or zoecon

 

[redvipe2010]

I'm so lucky to have Rod's food close by. It's got all the goodies mixed in.

 

[timrandlerv10]

dosed with garlic and selcon and zoe?

pretend i have no idea, and explain from there...not, um, for me, um, but for anyone else reading--yeah thats it, the silent masses!


it doesnt look like there is a 'bump' on the white spot, but he doesnt stop moving unless he's asleep. we just stopped by the office after friday night date night to check on them. he was completely buried in the nem (which means she went to bed first, because he's still not allowed in!).

i have a skimmer--reef octopus 110, which we are just getting set up well enough to run today. (spilling the food added impetus!)

water is collecting in the cup, and bubbles rise all the way up the throat but dont overflow into the cup. i may take some skimmer pics and post them over in that thread to get some adjustment help.

we got salt today, so tomorrow we'll do 25%. I'll then turn around and set up another 5 gallons (~10%) and do that sunday and monday and we'll see where we are then.

so far we've taken 30 pics, and not one of them had that spot in anything resembling focus.

tank-wide general anesthesia anyone?

 

[Kmiec123]

I have Rod as well, however still is good to diversify, I use sperella pellets, frozen mryis, hatch BB, Selcon, Oto w/ Natrous, Flakes, Formula's one and two. Basically anything they eat. How often? I feed three times a day, once to saturation because they are spawning at present. how? I have a feeding ring that works good to slowly drop pellets to prevent too much un eaten to the rest of the fish in my broodstock. I just drop in a couple of pellets at a time and they seem to get most of pellets. Never really hand feed...I have reached in by there nesting site with eggs many times to move Turbo Snails and it seems the pair know I'm gonna move a threat to the eggs and never bother me. Pretty cool really, if that's the case.

Anyway, sorry earlier, I was to dumb to answer your questions.. Thanks for the comments folks, and hope this helps....Carl
Sorry about the product spelling...

 

[redvipe2010]

timrandlerv10: Rods food is a special blend of a whole bunch of everything. Lots of different sea food, it's great for feeding corals, fish and anemones. It is home made by Rod Buehler himself! Great guy by the way! It is available on-line. Can't remember where at the moment since I've always been able to drive there. But I can find out if you want. Let me know on that. Selcon and garlic is a great additive to your foods you are giving. I've never used "zoe" so can't comment on that.

I've just recently noticed a white spot on my one of my clowns lips, I'm writing it off as some sort of injury or nothing at all. They have been in my care for a year and a half and nothing in the system has changed. In your case I wouldn't worry. If it gets worse or doesn't go away or get better in a week or two, then I would be concerned. And like stated above diversity in food is always best, which I do on my lazy days.


kmiek123: You are not dumb, neither was your question, please don't let slakker who's closest thing to a saltwater tank is a 1 gallon beta tank put words into my mouth!

 

[Slakker]

:rolleye1: At least I've got a pirate ship.

Also, upon re-reading it sounds more like you're commenting on the use of the phrase "matured pair," whereas my original read-through looked more like you were saying it wasn't a good suggestion because "mated" should mean that the fish are fully developed as far as coloration goes. I was pretty sure then that "mated" pairs don't necessarily have to have developed all of their stripes, and I'm still pretty sure that's the case, but as you've pointed out, I have little to no experience to base that on.

I apologize for misinterpreting your post.

 

[redvipe2010]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9147238#post9147238 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Slakker
:rolleye1: At least I've got a pirate ship.

Yes Very Impressive! Goes well with a Beta! And we can all see it from here! LOL

 

[Slakker]

Ain't nothin' more impressive than pirates

 

[redvipe2010]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9147238#post9147238 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Slakker
Also, upon re-reading it sounds more like you're commenting on the use of the phrase "matured pair," whereas my original read-through looked more like you were saying it wasn't a good suggestion because "mated" should mean that the fish are fully developed as far as coloration goes. I was pretty sure then that "mated" pairs don't necessarily have to have developed all of their stripes, and I'm still pretty sure that's the case, but as you've pointed out, I have little to no experience to base that on.

I apologize for misinterpreting your post.

Not sure exactly what you are getting at here. A mated pair is just that, they have mated, which is what the OP stated in the first few lines of the post. Not sure where you got "matured pair". However It was mentioned that this particular fish could be developing a third bar, which I would have to believe it is neither a mature pair or a mated pair, but most likely a bonded pair, if this were the case. On the other hand, it's not uncommon for misbarred clowns. I for one have never seen misbarred GSM in person or in pics, but that doesn't mean it's not possible.