complete external overflow on 6 foot tank!

sfsuphysics

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Ok, I finally did it, I made my external overflow. I went the brave but stupid route too and did all the cutting and stuff with a nearly full tank of water. Removing everything was not an option, so what I did is I used a couple 2x4s to brace the tank to prevent (flatten) any bulges, that and a 5 foot long external overflow ends up being a brace anyways so now I probably have less bulging atleast along the back.

Now I made the overflow from tap plastics scrap material, got 2 pieces for about $10, and managed to chop one into three 4" x 20" , and the other into two 4" x 30" pieces. I then glued them together to make 2 long pieces around 5 feet long each. I reenforced the bottom on with a small piece. Weld on #16 is my friend, none of that liquid crap! I'm unsure if it's as strong, but man it's forgiving for mistakes. Now ordinarily you probably wouldn't want to make a long piece from multiple smaller pieces since all the joints are going to be weak points but I figured there wouldn't be more than a couple inches of water at any one time in there so shouldn't be an issue

Here's the outerflow finished
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Then I went to the issue of cutting the slots in the back of a tank, I was thinking about cutting one long slit along the entire back but decided against that because I figured there might be a strength issue with the top. I had my girlfriend with a net to scoop out all the acrylic shavings that went into the tank (luckily it floats) and she did a bang up job of keeping the junk out! While this can be a one person job, it's way easier with two.

I used a rotozip to cut the slots, and used the 2x4 brace as a level for keeping my cuts more or less straight. One problem I realized is I cut a bit too much away (I really expected the water to come in much faster but man if those overflow slots didn't just suck water out! So what I did so my waterlevel wasn't too low I glued some smokey acrylic along the back so now there's a much smaller slot, but the semi-transparent nature lets me see through if water is flowing nicely.

Here's the overflow itself, I drilled for 2 1.5" bulkheads, although 1 bulkhead is more than sufficient to keep up with the water flow, but I left the second one I stuck in there and capped off (white pipe) incase I feel like adding the plumbing at a later date (incase I add a surge system or a larger return pump).
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And inside the tank, the slots really suck the entire surface down into the sump
right side
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center
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left side
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Nice job...

Plumb the second overlow to the sump and put a strainer on it just above the running water level. It will act as an emergency overflow if something clogs the primary :)
 
No way to put a strainer on it above the water level as the waterlevel is less than 2 inches high :) But yeah it'll basically be an "emergency" overflow, I've been off and on thinking of a surge system, but every time I do I think about how ugly it'll be (no way to hide it) plus all the bubbles and I tend to let the idea go.
 
Good work!! Isn't it fun doing work on a running tank....there is always that wondering feeling in the back of your head.....

Don't ya love it when a plan comes together.... :)
 
Yeah, it's a good feeling, another good feeling as noticing that a big box in both corners are now out of the tank and it seems like so much more room. Don't think I'll ever have an internal overflow box ever again.
 
heheh Bean, yeah yeah yeah, my camera has that ability and when I took these pictures I just wanted to hilight the overflows not so much caring about whitebalance, not to mention where I took the pictures low and far away from the tank I had a 12000k metal halide practically shining right into the camera.


Idiot: I haven't noticed an increase no, but then again my skimmer occasionally goes crazy occasionally and pulls a lot of wet stuff out, and then will have days where it won't pull much out but what it does pull out tends to be extremely dark.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7908210#post7908210 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by TheVillageIdiot
somehow i bet ansel's bad days looked better than my best... :D

i dunno, that Hoff pic is a classic.



;)


i dunno if i could ever do what you did on a tank thats full. knowing my luck the whole tank would shatter:eek


but congrats on a job well done:)
 
I have an overflow very similar to that on the back of my tank. The slit in my tank to let water in is only 1/4" wide, yours looks huge. Anyways, you should really add some bracing to the top as it will bow and pull away from the tank over time. I have much more support on mine (braces below, thicker acrylic and top braces, but I run the water level higher, about 6" I also have my drains at one end with a baffel that keeps the water a constant 6" in the overflow. I have a T5 bulb over it and use it as a frag tank. Do reinforce the top edge. It will slowly bow over time. Good work.
 
Bracing to top of what? the overflow? or the tank? I don't see how bracing ontop of the overflow will do anything since the water level in it is so low it's insignificant (and 1/4" acrylic is used!). If the tank, then yeah I plan on beefing up the top brace, mostly so I can cut some of it away.
 
No, brace the overflow. A 6 foot span with only a little water will bow over time, it would actually bow if it was empty. Either add a long strip the entire length or add a few small pieces braced back to the tank in even intervals down the length of the overflow.
 
Qwiv-

I'm about to do this exact same thing this weekend with my 180G. How far down did you place the 1/4 slit from the top of the tank?

All-

Does anyone know of any other threads about doing the tank long external overflow that are really beneficial with the how-to info?

Thanks,

Matt
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7911144#post7911144 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sfsuphysics
How's that line go... there's a fine line between stupid and ballsy :)

yeah, thats the gist of it;)
 
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