Curing Ich

hagar101

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I got a blue tang about a month ago, ich started about a week ago. the fish has a horrible amount of it now, i need to know what would be good to treat it?
 
Copper, hypo-salinity, or tank transfer are your only options. I'm afraid all of your fish will need to be treated in a QT; then use the QT with all new fish and you'll never go through this again. I'd start by reading the ich stickies at the top of this forum section.
 
It is a fish only by the way, not planning on making this one a reef anytime soon. And if i do i can just clean it out. Copper is the best way to go?
 
Copper is the best way to go in your specific situation. The life cycle of this parasite is very important to understand. The stage where the parasite is attached to a fish is called a trophont. The trophont will spend three to seven days (depending on temperature) feeding on the fish and that is what you see symptomatically when you see "salt sprinkled on the fish". But, and this is a big but, if the trophont is in the gills, you will not see it. After that, the trophont virtually always leaves the fish, always at night, and becomes what is called a protomont. (In the initial stages of infection, the number of trophonts is relatively low unless the fish is introduced into a tank that has been breeding cryptocaryon for a long time; this means it is very easy to miss visual symptoms if any). This protomont travels to the substrate and begins to crawl around for usually two to eight hours, but it could go for as long as eighteen hours after it leaves it's fish host. Once the protomont attaches to a surface, it begins to encyst and is now called a tomont. Division inside the cyst into hundreds of daughter parasites, called tomites, begins shortly thereafter. This noninfectious stage can last anywhere from three to twenty-eight days (hence the three day transfer protocol in tank transfer) . During this extended period, the parasite cyst is lying in wait for a host. After this period, the tomites hatch and begin swimming around, looking for a fish host; the tomite stage is the life cycle stage that is vulnerable to copper treatment. Since fish in aquaria tend to sleep in the same location, it is very likely that tomites can reinfect the fish at night. This is why it is critical to test copper just before lights go out since tomites are the life cycle stage that can be eradicated via copper. At this point, they are called theronts, and they must find a host within twenty-four hours or die. They prefer to seek out the skin and gill tissue, then transform into trophonts, and begin the process all over again. What this means is that when your tank is infected, you can actually see symptoms during a very small part of the life cycle, and it is why your tank is infected even though your fish can be resistant. It will also explain why visual and/or behavioral symptoms come and go.
 
Wow, thanks steve. Not the first time you have helped me with a problem =P thanks! Would you choose a particular brand over another?
 
Generally I recommend cupramine. I also recommend using the Seachem test kit for maintaining appropriate levels. It is most important to test just before lights out. Hope this is helpful. I have no connection with Seachem except as a user of their product.
 
Steve, that was a great explanation! My black trigger rubs himself on the rocks and I think got an infection, which is what is causing (I think) ich in my 210 FOWLR. Does this sound correct. My water parameters are good. Will the copper kill the algae in my refugium or my fuzzy dwarf lion? Thanks
 
Steve, that was a great explanation! My black trigger rubs himself on the rocks and I think got an infection, which is what is causing (I think) ich in my 210 FOWLR. Does this sound correct. My water parameters are good. Will the copper kill the algae in my refugium or my fuzzy dwarf lion? Thanks

I have only used copper in bare tanks with PVC decorations because of the difficulty in maintaining the appropriate level. It will most likely destroy your algae and it will definitely seep into your live rock making appropriate levels very difficult if not impossible.
 
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