Did my coral just died on me??

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allendehl

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Hello guys,

A few weeks ago I bought this "bundle" of 4 types from corals from my LFS. They were all doing great until about 4 days ago when one decided to close up completely. I saw it retracting more and more. I thought it was upset and didn't pay too much attention but since them it is in the same situation. I was told by the LFS these 4 types of corals were of the same family so they could live close to each other with no issues. The first pic is of it when open and the second all closed.
Did it just die on me out of the blue or can I still do something for it?

Water params are all in range.

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what is the range of your water params? Maybe the angel is nipping? can you post a full tank shot? What lights and other equipment are you running? I would stay away from maricultured corals, they can be tricky sometimes
 
I find its fairly common for frogspawn/torch/hammer corals to either work great and adapt to your tank or they just don't.. Could be nothing you did..
I have found them to just be like that..
I'd say 75% do fine the other 25% just don't make it to long after being introduced in a nw tank..
 
Mine did that when it wasn't happy with the flow/lighting. I moved it and now it's going nuts. Looking closer it looks like you moved the rock from the first to the second pic and that head is dead. Like mcgyvr said sometimes they just die but also keep an eye out for receding issues on the other ones. Could be bacteria related.
 
ReeferNoob4ever said:
Mine did that when it wasn't happy with the flow/lighting. I moved it and now it's going nuts. Looking closer it looks like you moved the rock from the first to the second pic and that head is dead. Like mcgyvr said sometimes they just die but also keep an eye out for receding issues on the other ones. Could be bacteria related.
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Thank you, I did move it yesterday thinking it was probably a flow/light issue as you mentioned. So far no results. The others are fine, when lights are on they seem happy.
Any sign of bacteria I should be looking for?
 
Brown jelly is the main one, the name is straight forward on what to look for/expect. Heads covered in brown jelly.
 
You say 4 different heads, circle 1, that one is not dying, if all your parameters are on point, laave it alone, but the one in the back at least looks worse....I am I missing something in the pic?
 
The one circled is the one that is closed now (hopefully not dying). In the second pic it is in the far left corner, I rotated the piece of rock to see if flow/light was an issue.
 
I only see two different types, a frogspawn and torches, no problem being together.
I would not rush to the dying thing yet, like mentioned above, sometimes they just be moody when the environment changes.....flow should be low....polyps gently waiving at most.....give more time....say....3-4 days...
 
Uncle99 said:
I only see two different types, a frogspawn and torches, no problem being together.
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Umm... NO

All euphyillia except the torch can be kept together in groups. A torch will sting anything it can reach, including it's own kind. Anytime a torch is in a group of other corals, everything dies except the torch.

Frogspawn, hammer, octospawn, can all be kept together in very close proximity, even touching they are fine.


All I see are 3 frags of a torch, and 1 octospawn/frogspawn.
 
I will take your word on that.....my torches and frogs are in a line side by side...say 2 inches space....Is this just luck.....I see no stinger on the torches.......can you advise?
 
You are absolutely correct, my mistake, I have so lucky so far, it appears my torches can't reach others....good thing.....strong sting this coral....
 
As long as they have room they are fine, but be advised there is a reason it's called a torch(packs quite a wallop for a coral).

Some say they work out just fine, while others have a torch sting anything that gets near it. More often then not, they sting, and thats why we typically tell people to keep a torch by itself and not near other euphyllia or coral in general. I think it all depends on the coral. I have seen torch's touching other euphyllia at an LFS, but it's not something I would try and have been advised against it by people much more knowledgeable then me.

My torch will sting anything that gets near it. If it even senses(not sure if corals can actually sense anything) another coral, I'll see some really long sweepers. It used to beat the heck out of some pulsing Xenia, but that stuff grows so fast one head would die from stinging, 3 more would pop up in its place.
 
Uncle99 said:
So is the other torch in the picture attacking....is that the cause of this....?
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Could very well be, hard to tell without actually seeing it happening. It typically starts out in a small area with dead tissue and typically doesn't spread past where it was stung. With only 1 head, it very well could have been stung to death, but I doubt thats whats happening here.

Without actual parameter numbers(Alk, cal, mag, NO3, PO4) it's tough to say what happened.
 
Appreciate that info, I am going to open up just a bit more room to ensure the torches can never touch anyone.....thanks for the save!
 
homer1475 said:
Could very well be, hard to tell without actually seeing it happening. It typically starts out in a small area with dead tissue and typically doesn't spread past where it was stung. With only 1 head, it very well could have been stung to death, but I doubt thats whats happening here.

Without actual parameter numbers(Alk, cal, mag, NO3, PO4) it's tough to say what happened.
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This all happened in a few hours, it was fine, then started to close more and more. I can't tell whether the torch actually stung it or not...not savvy enough to determine that.
I did a WC last Saturday and have the params logged at home. I'll post them later.
 
Current water parameters are as follow:

Ph: 8
Nitrates: 0
Phosphates: 0.03
Alk: 9.3
Ca: 415
Mg: 1320

WC was done on Sat (2 days ago)
 
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