difference between zoo's & paly's

[aquarius77]

I have some huge palys sold to me as RPE and they get blasted with flow from a maxi jet 1200 with a hydor wavemaker on it and they love it. It seems to me most zoos/palys i have had experience with will not be harmed by strong flow.

 

[Smork81]

They are looking much better thanks for asking. Oh and when i asked about the "were" i thought u meant they were allready goners heh.
I got an extra MJ1200 to put in my QT and have them a few inches away from that on some eggcrate. They are opening up more and seem to be getting better. But i also have them under much less lighting. They were on tte bottom of a 55g under 2x150w halides and 4 actinics. And on the QT i have only powercompacts..no halides. So im thinking maybe...light was also an issue as i just recently within the past 2 months recieved halides. Maybe they were shocked from the lights..Its a possibility but im not 100% sure.

 

[Echidna09]

Light probably wasn't it if they didn't react until 2 months later. The only thing that would cause the light to affect them that long after the change would be the extra algae growth that the brighter lights brought on. They look like they have stuff all over them, which is why you wanted to put them in higher flow; so it would be harder for algae to grow on the tissue and to blow sediment away so it doesn't get trapped between the polyps. If you keep them in low light they will lose color.

 

[crabbypatty]

palys for sure zoas are alway's smaller somtimes refered to as button polyps.

 

[NanoReefWanabe]

how do palys draw up sand if they are on the rocks?

only zoa /palys i have on the sand are my frags..

 

[Siffy]

Sand, Aragonite, Calcium Carbonate, Alkalinity... Same thing, different names. It's available in your water column for your corals to utilize.

 

[jimicasper]

we call them snake zoos here but they are palys!

 

[josephatmbibank]

ATL red people eater this is my start up colony in my main 135. I accually have about 200 polyps in the probagation tank

ATL powder pink palys

Colony in the probagation tank .

FIre and ice and red city blowpops zoos.


I sell alot in my local forum , some other city ones, and LFS to get credit ofr supplies. I think palys to me are nicer and definitly bigger with more vibrant colors.

-Joseph Le

 

[Dr Begalke]

Re: Zoanthus/Palythoa ID

Re: Zoanthus/Palythoa ID

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7242049#post7242049 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jreimer
The easiest way to seperate these two genera (with Protopalythoa being included in Palythoa) is simple. Palythoa are in the family Sphenopidae, which take up sand and other small particles to help build their structure.

What happens if you keep Palythoa in a BB tank??

 

[reefer3333]

good post topic:thumbsup:

 

[Rosseau]

I know that sponges are able to generate structural "spicules" using dissolves Si in the water.

I don't think that Zoa's/Paly's have this ability - or most don't anyways They must use sand grains, discarded sponge spicules etc.

Am I right with this? I'll look into some legitimate sources.

 

[Ritten]

Re: Zoanthus/Palythoa ID

Re: Zoanthus/Palythoa ID

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7242049#post7242049 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jreimer
The easiest way to seperate these two genera (with Protopalythoa being included in Palythoa) is simple. Palythoa are in the family Sphenopidae, which take up sand and other small particles to help build their structure. Polyp, colony, coenenchyme (the "mat" tissue) and oral disk shape, as well as color, all are very flexible even within not only genera but also within species. Note that Epizoanthus and Parazoanthus also are encrusting (take up sand).

Zoanthus are in Zoanthidae (along with Isaurus and Acrozoanthus) and don't take up sand.

If you are not sure which type of zoanthid you have, take a high-res digital photo, and then zoom in. If you can see sand particles in the tissue, you aren't looking at a Zoanthus!

cheers,

james

The other night I looked in my tank with a flashlight looking for any predators. I noticed for the first time that my Palys looked like they had white glitter on their stalks. Your post explains that - it's sand. Pretty cool.

 

[Pufferpunk]

http://www.farms-of-thesea.com/catalog/includes/languages/english/html/seamat.pdf

Zoanthus have smaller polyps and reproduce by forming buds from the base of the mated
tissue. The species unlike some of the others in the family does not incorporate sediment into
it’s base. The oral disk is in the center of tightly packed tentacles and appear in nature in a
variety of colors and endless combinations.

Palythoa have larger polyps but are also embedded in a common tissue. The texture of the
base of both the Palythoa and Protopalythoa is rough from the incorporation of sand and
sediment directly in the tissue. The assimilation of the material is thought to be both for
defense and support. The larger polyps lend themselves to feeding on larger meatier foods.

Protopalythoa much like the Palythoa in size but with the exception that the polyps are not
connected to one mass of tissue. Some seem to have less more pointed tentacles in some
cases they even alternate up and down (Sprung 2001)

I have no idea why it copied like that.